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Clothes moths are believed to be native to Africa and do not exist so much in nature. They mostly follow humans around and live in houses, where temperatures are warmer and the air is drier. They've been a traditional problem in Europe and the Northeast of the US for around 200 years, since people traditionally had so many items made out of wool, and they especially became a problem when central heating became a widespread phenomena. However, beginning in about the 60s they went on the decline as more materials began to be made out of synthetics and animal hairs became less common.

Now they appear to be on the surge again. There are several reasons cited for the increase. First, warmer winters. Housekeeping not being as thorough anymore, since people are so busy, and the culture has changed, women don't clean house as much anymore.
Then there is the fact that the government has imposed "energy efficient" clothes washers that do not heat the water as hot, so moth larva in wool clothes are more likely to survive. Insecticides are being used much less frequently because of a public cultural aversion to "chemicals", and wanting to be more "natural".
Another big issue has been a switch back to natural fiber materials in carpeting and clothing. Wool carpeting is become more popular in England.
Not only that, but almost all homes are built with insulation in the walls and attic these days for "energy efficiency", and as part of the "natural" trend, some people are installing wool as that insulation. While wool is a great material in some ways, very insulating, biodegradable, and naturally fire resistant, it is also an invitation for moth infestation in the house.

In 2008, the EU banned the use of naphthalene, long traditionally used as the ingredient in mothballs to keep moths away.

This will have an economic impact, since moths can easily cause thousands of pounds of damage in a home, leaving big holes in wool carpets and wool clothes.
With the moths becoming more prevalent, they will also be likely to spread to other surrounding homes in these areas.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... be-stopped

Seems like another unintended consequence of the "back to nature" movement and government laws.
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Now @Puffer Fish

Don't be so quick to point the finger at the British. Moths are ubiquitous. Your beloved China has 108 species of moths including this behemoth:

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As you can see the GIANT Asian moth is a darned site bigger than the weeny European one. (I find this a contrast to people which are just the opposite. At least as far as height is concerned. You will have to check with @rancid WRT penises.) But then I digress.

I object to your article because it is very sexist. There is this comment: "...women don't clean house as much anymore." Well three things to say about that:

First, where in the book does it say that women have to do all of the cleaning? Men can clean too. If I wanted to I could completely abandon my manhood and do the cleaning.

Secondly, why do you think women cleaned more previously? I remember the 50's when most women stayed home and I can tell you that they were not spending all day cleaning. They did some, of course, but from what I observed on the scene, mostly they watched game shows, soap operas, me fucking around and ate tons of candy. So much candy that they blew up like a "@Puffer Fish if you will allow me to say it. Were talking big. After awhile they had more chins than a Chinese phone book. And their poor suffering husbands, who married the cheerleader with the biggest tits (for love) found himself in public with a girl who needed her own zip code and a bon-bon bill that was more than his '56 Ford payments. Very much like Utah today.

And finally, women deserve better. They should be allowed to work and seek the fulfillment that comes from being in an exhilarating and lucrative job. As I write this I am in my home and that dear sweet Ms. Ramirez has just finished making our dinner and will tidy up before she collects her paycheck and goes home knowing that she has helped keep the wheels of commerce going and is a shining example of women breaking out (in this case from Guatemala) and pushing the limits of their economic aptitude. She aspires to someday get Social Security and retire. There is a minor problem with that but then I digress again.

...some people are installing wool as that insulation.


Oh ick. Really Puffer Fish. That is just sick. Never mind the tens of thousands of sheep who are naked to the world just so some posh middle class barrister can keep warm without having sex with his wife. (Or any other sex worker for that matter.) Never mind them. How about the smell? We all know that wool is not exactly the main ingredient in cologne. And what if you have a Scottish house guest. How is the poor unfortunate soul supposed to sleep? I guess there is little chance he will roll out of bed but then a couple of double scotch's and a Viagra will work just as well and not keep him awake trying to lay on his hands.

In 2008, the EU banned the use of naphthalene, long traditionally used as the ingredient in mothballs to keep moths away.


The Germans banned Moth Balls? :eek: Fuckers. Is it not enough that they own the EU without leaving everyone else with little holes in their kilts? I'm telling you, you had better start watching the message traffic between Berlin and Tokyo again. I hear Merkle has a map of Poland on her desk. Just saying.

Seems like another unintended consequence of the "back to nature" movement and government laws.


You mean as opposed to non government laws? But I don't think so. I think the moths are coming in with shipments of Chinese merchandise. I mean you can't so much as open a new pair of sneakers without some critter flying out. And what is that smell when you fire up a new toaster for the first time? Moth unless I miss my guess.

Thank you for posting this enlightening and deeply concerning post. I think when the word gets out this thread will be very popular. But try not to worry about the British. There will always be an England.
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Drlee wrote:I object to your article because it is very sexist. There is this comment: "...women don't clean house as much anymore." Well three things to say about that:

First, where in the book does it say that women have to do all of the cleaning? Men can clean too. If I wanted to I could completely abandon my manhood and do the cleaning.

The point obviously was that women are not staying home and keeping the house like they used to.
Today, both people in the relationship are working full-time outside of the home. And many adults are living alone, not sharing a home.
There's no reason to have to bend words out of the ordinary to try to be all politically correct. You know what I mean.

Drlee wrote:Secondly, why do you think women cleaned more previously? I remember the 50's when most women stayed home and I can tell you that they were not spending all day cleaning.

Oh please, and that's not sexist?

Drlee wrote:After awhile they had more chins than a Chinese phone book.

You seem to have an obsession with the Chinese here.


Drlee wrote:And finally, women deserve better. They should be allowed to work and seek the fulfillment that comes from being in an exhilarating and lucrative job.

I was just pointing out that there may be a few minor downsides to the modern way of doing things.
Not saying women should go back. (Well, at least not in this discussion)


Drlee wrote: As I write this I am in my home and that dear sweet Ms. Ramirez has just finished making our dinner and will tidy up before she collects her paycheck

I have noticed how immigrant labor frees up middle class women to have their careers.

Of course, it's an inherently one-sided proposition. And a little bit of pyramid scheme for society too, in the long-term (that is unless this hired help is eventually forced to go back to their own country before they start a family of their own. Take a look at how Saudi Arabia handles things)


Drlee wrote: I'm telling you, you had better start watching the message traffic between Berlin and Tokyo again.

Just a little bit of trivia, but Japan imports more wool per capita than any other country. Wool seems to be pretty popular there. Mainly fashion and so many old homemaking Asian women.


Drlee wrote: I think the moths are coming in with shipments of Chinese merchandise.

Most of these exports are not wool though, so that may not be too likely.
I think China only exports somewhere around 30% of the wool clothes in the world, which is really not that much when you put that into perspective of how much else China dominates exports.


Drlee wrote: Thank you for posting this enlightening and deeply concerning post. I think when the word gets out this thread will be very popular. But try not to worry about the British. There will always be an England.

The government has banned things for reasons more trivial than this.
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Puffer Fish wrote:Have you had crabs?


My wife takes me to Red Lobster all the time.

Anyway, buy some extra large freezer bags. Put the wool and/or hide artifacts in the bags. Put them in the freezer. Wait 24 hours. Do not unseal anything until everything wool and/or hide has been frozen.
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Yes, they do sell them, but they are still pretty rare in the USA, since few Americans have much wool. Wool is a very uncommon item for the majority of Americans these days.


??

All of my suits are wool. My oriental carpets are wool. Much of my Ms Drlee's wardrobe is wool which accounts for the fact that she is occasionally scratchy. Seriously guy. Wool is really common in the US.

Good kilts are wool. Cheap kilts are for people who go to the Highland Games and want to look like they can toss a Caber. They, for the most part, cannot toss a caber and many of them could not toss their cookies. I cannot toss a caber (though I am of Scottish decent) for two reasons. I do not have a caber and I am old.

Wool.

There is a reason that Scottish wool is very soft. Among the softest in the world as a matter of fact. It is that there is nothing under one's Kilt. (Well on a good day lips but then I digress.) Only about 15% of Scotsman are circumcised. I need not tell you @Puffer Fish what this means. It explains a lot in my opinion. 75% of Americans are helmets and we buy a lot of kilts. Enough that there is a compelling need for soft wool in Scotland. It is absolutely Not a good idea to chafe 75% of Americans, the majority of which are gun toting MAGA types. (It being very frowned upon by democrats much to everyone's chagrin.)
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