Julian658 wrote:I am a libertarian and I could care less if left wingers want to kill their babies. However, my wife will never our babies, she just cannot do it. So in a sense I am pro-choice.
Watch this Gyn doc in congress who has done over 1200 abortions. Abortion is nasty business.
Nobody "wants to kill babies", at least nobody making the reasonable arguments. I am sure, like everything in life, that you could find a couple of psychopaths, but by en large, there is no "epidemic of baby killers".
The pro-life vs pro-choice is not a real dichotomy, you can be both... I am both. I believe in educating people about safe sex practices, about contraception, about family planning, about genetic screening when necesary (family with rare genetic diseases that could lead to the affected fetus), to prenatal care to avoid complications (neural tube defects, cleft palate, major deformities, etc). What I don't believe, is that we can legislate what a woman can/cannot do with her body.
Think about the implications, the same argument could be made to force someone donate bone marrow, or a kidney, or a portion of the liver, or blood, etc.
Then... the same people (not talking about you specifically) are the same people that advocate for loose gun control laws... you know how many people die due to accidents, suicides, negligence and/or "crazy idiot with a machine gun" every day? Where is the fucking "pro-life" there... somehow you claim you (and again, I am using a you in general not necesarily specifically refering to you) can justify overriding bodily rights of a woman, put her health/life at risk with the justification that you want to save lives... but when it comes to some "extra paperwork" to get a gun... all of the fucking sudden this is too much of a burden. This is the country where you have to place a fucking label on tidepods so that people don't eat them, and they still do it and some fucking how you can buy a machine gun relatively easy?
I have had women that believe this nonsense... I had women with ectopic pregnacies (non viable, dangerous) leave my hospital after ER physician, OBGYN doctor and myself told her that the pregnancy is not viable, that she is likely to get very sick and/or die soon if she does not get the treatment that she needed. I am pro-life... and that means I am pro-life of the mother as well.