Atlantis wrote:Trump is neither German nor a thinker. He is a typical product of US imperialism who wouldn't stand a chance in Germany.
He's a German-American. He was raised by his father who was Nietzschean master-morality asshole to the extreme, and so is Trump.
Trump is a thinker. He has a brain and a ideological worldview and a political philosophy he has put into practice that people follow.
Trump isn't the product of "US imperialism", he's the least imperialistic POTUS since Pearl Harbor was bombed. He's a product of his a-hole father who has clearly been influenced by Nietzsche and/or Hitler. Trump is the blonde "ubermench"...gone very wrong.
Hitler was a demagogue but not a thinker or philosopher. It takes an American to confound the two.
Hitler had a brain and a ideological worldview and a political philosophy he has put into practice. You don't need a degree in philosophy and 30 books to your name to create political philosophies or to think. Neo-Nazis still follow his philosophies 80 years later, his thoughts have unfortunately been very influential.
Also, I'm not an American.
Marx was a great economist, only American anti-communists would consider him a dangerous thinker today.
I'm not an American. Marx was a brilliant economist and economic historian who espoused an economic system that was only weakly and vaguely thought out and completely untested and led to the deaths of 50-100 million people. That's dangerous and irresponsible.
Nietsche was an inspirational thinker but not a philosopher who presented a system of thought.
Incorrect. You don't even know how to spell Nietzsche.
While neither of the above is a thinker in the sense of a major philosopher, you ignore real German philosopher or thinkers including Kant, Hegel, Schopenhauer, Goethe and many others.
Not all German thinkers were dangerous. But the most dangerous thinkers were German.
Like Nagarjuna, every philosopher needs to take his philosophy to "an extreme". Otherwise it would just remain mediocre and common place.
But i'm saying a philosopher needs to consider what would happen if others take it to an extreme. Or even just follow it ardently.
The Christian philosophy of love has been turned into an instrument for massacring millions. Does that make Jesus a "dangerous thinker?"
In many ways, yes. Religion is dangerous when people follow it dogmatically. The Old Testament is filled with dangerous garbage though. Jesus wasn't as bad, but if followed strictly his teachings are filled with rubbish and holes. Divorce is a sin (what if you husband is beating you). Follow pacifism (what if Hitler wants to invade your country?).
Pre-war racists constructed Jewish-Bolshevik (or Jewish-Bolshevik-Capitalist) conspiracies. Since it's no more politically correct to pander Jewish conspiracy theories, you replaced Jewish with German in your racist conspiracy theory.
I'm not making a racist argument, i'm making an argument about intellectual culture. There's lots of good Germans and smart/non-dangerous German thinkers/philosophers. Many have in fact been brilliant. But some powerful ideas are very dangerous and the 20th century is proof. People who publicly and loudly espouse a worldview need to be careful because people might actually follow it.