Unthinking Majority wrote:I'm not saying that at all, that's just how you're interpreting it in your own mind because you're filtering everything through your "racial warrior" lens. I never, ever said "both sides are equal" nor do I believe that. What I said is both sides have committed violence and have rioted and are angry at each other. I never made any claims or any comments on who is just and who isn't because that's not part of my argument. Actually that's not true, the one thing i did say is that white racists (which includes cops) have instigated the violence, just as you're claiming. So chillax bro.
Even your assumption about there being two sides is wrong. Not all communities of colour are “on the same side”. Their only commonality is often just being racialised.
And even if you are just simply saying both sides are violent, you are simplifying the situation so much that it actually confuses the situation.
Also, you should read my posts more carefully if you think I am accusing you of holding certain beliefs. It is about your arguments, not about you.
What are you talking about??? I haven't said ANYTHING about taking the cops side on anything. I never said "both sides" they were equally violent, I said both have been violent. That's a fact. A blue whale and I both eat food. That's a statistical fact. That doesn't mean a blue whale and I eat the an equal amount of food.
No, you probably have no idea how you took the cops’ side.
I will explain again: you are assuming Antifa and other groups are violent. Why? Because they supposedly got violent during protests against police brutality, and this is based on what the police said
So I pointed out that police routinely lie in this situation.
This then undermines the whole argument by police against Antifa an other groups that these groups are violent. You, of course, also made this claim that cops make.
Same with the US Civil War in 1860's or WWII. Both sides were violent, that's a fact, doesn't mean one side didn't start it or one side wasn't far more just than the other. Saying "The Allies and the Axis powers are in conflict and both sides have killed many people" doesn't mean i'm taking the side of the Nazis, it means i'm pointing out statistical facts.
Since the white nationalists are the ones shooting people and attacking people and organising for violence while no other group in your “war” is doing, your comparison to WWII or the Civil War is incorrect and only serves to confuse the audience into thinking both sides are belligerent.
You're not understanding my point and keep picking a fight by flipping strawmen at me so I have no choice but to repeat it over and over hoping you'll finally understand. Not going to happen so forget it.
Feel free to keep repeating your claims, even verbatim if you wish. I predict you will run into no problems at all.
Really? So there isn't racial conflict going on in America? Coulda fooled me!
Feel free to show me that black people are organising into racial supremacy militias.
We both know you cannot show that they have recently had the support of the government, or felt so emboldened by such support they attacked the government openly. So, to simply ignore these huge differences in scale, impact, and impunity and dismiss both sides as engaging in “racial conflict” is incorrect at best, because it simplifies a complex situation and implies a non-existent equality.
This is the same thing that Trump did when he said there were fine people on both sides of the Charlottesville incident.
I've already said in a post to you that you have already read and responded to that white racists have instigated virtually all of the violence. Reading comprehension is a skill. This is what I said to you in my exact words a couple of posts ago:
You seem to often ignore things that don't confirm your biases but latch onto things that do or make up strawmen to argue with. It's very frustrating and happens all the time.
The fact that you recognise that the facts contradict your metaphor does not change the fact that you insist on using a metaphor that is contradicted by facts and has been used to excuse racist violence.