noemon wrote:I had not even realised that Hong Kong has been distinct from China for far longer than the Han have been ruling China.
Has Hong Kong ever been a part of Han China?
It doesn't seem so.
Sorry Sir, wrong interpretation.
Hong Kong was under Han rule for about 2,000 years before the British came.
Actually being so southerly means most of the Han settling there was rather free from pestering from northern nomadic people.
As the Song was being conquered by Mongols, two of the Chinese child emperors actually settled in Hong Kong, and one of them actually died in the territory.
Even though the Han has been conquered for 600 of the last 1,000 years, one thing I have to clarify: The Han was being so resilient that most ethnicities that actually conquered them got assimilated into the Han rather than otherwise.
The Chinese state just before British conquest was established by the Manchus, but by the time the West came, Manchus were more or less a thing of the past already.
There is no need to establish our (Hongkongers) separate identity by making distorted claims like "we had never been under Chinese rule before".We are simply rejecting China because we have seen better
Heisenberg wrote:Here's an idea: how about you back up your unspoken claim here, which is that the Han eradicated hundreds of millions of Manchus over the course of the past century without anyone noticing.
The Manchus more or less assimilated themselves into the Han. It's actually a very common process for conqueror ethnicities in China.
In fact, even the Japanese invaded China based on some very Chinese belief (thinking they were the centre of civilization)