Unthinking Majority wrote:WTF are you talking about? You're also a collection of tissue. But please, keep trying to dehumanize the fetus so you can sleep at night when you kill them. It looks like a baby to me:
So is being sucked out the womb.
It is the truth. A 12-week fetus outside of the incubator has as much of a chance to grow to be a human as a kidney does. It cannot feel pain (just like a kidney), it cannot "survive" just like a kidney.
You stop making this be a sentimental guilt trip. About half of pregnancies end up in miscarriages NATURALLY. How many of those miscarriages have you mourned? Chances are that your mother had one or many, how many of those miscarriages have a cemetery tomb for you to go and put flowers or weep? Your wife? Daughter? I am not saying that a miscarriage is "never traumatic" sometimes it is, sometimes there is a highly wanted pregnancy, a pregnancy to a couple that is having fertility issues and/or a miscarriage at a later time in the pregnancy. It happens. The point is, the vast majority of times we either never find out and/or is not a huge deal.
Stop trying to save the life of an embryo and or fetus at the expense of treating a human as an incubator and taking away her autonomy. You want to save lives? Go to Africa and start giving Malaria, TB, HIV medications.... You want to save lives? Go to Asia and vaccinate people against hepatitis. You want to save lives? Go to the middle east were they treat women like slaves, stone them to death, etc. A guy with a dick, dictating that a woman, with what is essentially a parasite, must live with this for 9month and deliver it, regardless of the physical and/or psychological implications out of some misguided sense of personhood is ridiculous.
Crazy idea: if you don't want anyone pregnant, don't cum inside a vagina.
Quick fix!
Interesting idea. So... how about we go and castrate men to ensure this?
I wonder if you would be so willing to hit on men's "freedoms" to save "babies". Perhaps if you kept the DNA database of every men, and then when a baby is born, test every baby against the database, and if a baby is the result of a rape, instantly put the man that matches the DNA in jail forever and have the state pay for child support? Or if a baby is born to an "unexpected father" have the IRS automatically deduct child support and give to the mother, no question asked? Perhaps this way we will ensure no unwanted pregnancies or abortions....
But instead, it is easier to take the bulk of the rage, accusations and judgments to the mother.
Again, society has already decided that a pregnant woman has autonomy over her body. You cannot jail a woman that drinks while pregnant, even though we know alcohol is damaging to the unborn. Do you support charging a woman with battery or child abuse if she drinks or smoke while pregnant? If not? Why not? You just told me a fetus is a baby... worthy of living and having rights... so this baby don't have the right to not be poisoned by her mother? I am sure if you find a mother giving whisky to her 5 year old and letting them smoke and/or doing drugs child protective services would have something to say about this....
Yet, a pregnant woman can drink alcohol, a pregnant woman can smoke, a pregnant woman can continue her warfarin which can potentially be teratogenic.
This is an obsession... There are 10x as many children dying in Africa of preventable things than fetus aborted in the US, yet you are playing the "pro-life" card.
Is the unborn really that much important to you... that you would rather forcibly have someone complete a pregnancy? Yet you could instead focus your "dedication" to save those children that are already born, and presumably, loved by their parents? I don't buy it, I don't buy it for a second. This is not some sort of humanity that you have and I lack. This is pure and simple religious/political propaganda that has brainwashed the judgment out of otherwise sane people. SNAP out of it. You want to save lives? Go ahead, there are plenty of lives that need saving, don't do it at the expense of people's freedom/autonomy and certainly not until all other "low hanging fruits" have been exhausted.