Unthinking Majority wrote:He plays within the laws to pay as little taxes as possible in order to keep more of the money he's earned, which is exactly what you and I do.
It;s not what I do.
Unthinking Majority wrote:He isn't an asshole, he's just a rational actor and not an idiot. He's not a charity. If the government doesn't like the rules then change the rules. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
I don't hate him, the problem is the politicians take Money from rich people and write the laws to benefit the rich. That's what this threads is about. Changing the rules so people are treated somewhat equally.
Unthinking Majority wrote:You're an asshole for resenting someone for doing exactly what you do, and exactly what you'd do in his situation.
I woudl not.
Unthinking Majority wrote:This man is trying to save the fucking planet and the human species.
Oh please not paying tax will save the planet. Hyperbolic piffle. Bongwater of the dirtiest sort. God King sof ancient Egypt went with that bulldust it vert tired line of bull.
Unthinking Majority wrote:All of these people haven't invested in his companies because his business fundamentals are sound and he makes gobs of profit like Bezos, they've invested because his technologies are a long-game bet to transform the human species and the planet for the better and people believe in him and his mission. Listen to the man speak for 2 minutes and you'd know that his modus operandi isn't to get richer, he's trying to save the damn species.
Juts bull. Just because the rich believe them being rich is good for everyone does not make it true. These people are businessmen and predominately they make money form market manipulation rather than actually doing anything useful, others actually do the work.
Unthinking Majority wrote:This man doesn't spend his days relaxing on his yatch. He works harder than every single person on this forum. He doesn't have time to post on forums, he barely has time to tweet 10 words several times a week while he takes a shit. He's slept on the concrete floor of one of his factories because he doesn't have time to go home and sleep. You had damn hope he takes every penny he saves in taxes and uses it to succeed in his missions.
You have followed Musk around personally or just believe every word of bull out of his mouth? Rich people work hard. Pffrtt. They do not know what work is.
The Study of History has taught me one thing there is no privilege class that ever has a problem justifying that privilege and how it's to everyone;s benefit that they have the privilege including those at the bottom.
It's a lie.
Unthinking Majority wrote:To sit there and say that "he doesn't contribute to society" is such a horrifically ignorant thing to say its beyond words. If you can find another human being on this planet that contributes more to society than Elon Musk i'd love to hear that name, because it doesn't exist.
Rich people are rich because they get more form society than they contribute. Musk enjoys a lavish lifestyle;e because others work hard to make it so. He's one those at the top o the pyramid who relies and countless others working below to generate the excess that he and others enjoy.
And he declines to pay even a modest amount of tax., He's an arsehole.
Bottom Line should the tax system be fair and treat everyone equally? The Currently accepted principle of taxation of income is people pay something proportional to their income. The Rich generally don't as they have many ways of manipulating the system. Musk is just one very prominent example. Warren called him out and was proposing we change the laws to be more equitable.
The subject is the game not the player, the proposal is try and fix the system, not just go after Musk, but a system which more fairly reflects the principle.
The Arguments raised here are complete bong water. That there should be a tick box of the tax forms , are you saving the planet , if you tick it you donlt pay tax, Did you work really hard, if you tick it you don't have to pay tax.
Piffle.
Should the tax system be fair, Should the rich pay tax proportionate to their income? That is the question. All this guff how about how Musk is such a great guy we should all just shut up and support his lavish lifestyle is just hooky Egyptian god King backwards thinking for people whose heads have zipper up the back.