Rancid wrote:I dont know if you recall, but la loca MTG at one point referred to different groups in the MAGA wing as "the five families".
THese people are telling us exactly who they are, yet, so many of us are way too fucking stupid to see it.
No, Rancid, I think a lot of the people who voted for Trump are just hating on the system as is. They see elitist politicians, bankers, brokers, and corporate people who lie to them. Media who lie to them. Everyone lies to them. They are just chumps or taxpayers and average people, or they are well off and see minorities as a threat to their idea of the American Ideal. They want to do something about it. Thinking that Trump is the solution to the establishment status quo and he is their monkey wrench to the system. They want an easy fix to the deep unease they feel in the pit of their stomachs.
Many of them probably do not even consider themselves racists. They just want to think that the system needs to be disciplined through an outsider.
They fail to realize what the system is properly at all. Tremendous lack of analysis of their lived conditions. A real lack of understanding of what capitalism is, what media and its role in American society are. It is about political correctness too many structured rules that serve only a small group. Spoiled with their ideas of being taken advantage of when they have fucking exploited half the world. They refuse to do that. I find it all the time. Blame others for their own fucked up choices. They have been told that American society is about certain principles and no one follows it really if you are either a politician or a very wealthy individual or corporation. Those are the people who are successful. Who threatens my security? The vulnerable, not the powerful. The Powerful is I. When it is not. Delusion Rancid.
The January 6th crowd where not unemployed people, students only, or some kind of disenfranchised group. They were people with healthy incomes, jobs, families, and responsibilities. They were people who were led to believe that what they thought of the US government and how it functioned was being betrayed by arrogant pricks who needed their comeuppance.
Trump was the man who would do that to the system.
They just failed to grasp that democracy is about tolerance above all.
I learned that long ago Rancid. I always voted for a minority political platform, in an island bombarded with American political propaganda day and night. Pumping the entire society with lies day and night.
I lived with voters who never agreed with me. Who always was lied to. But democracy is not about people agreeing with my point of view and my vision of what I want. It was about letting people live with whatever they CHOSE to believe. That is democracy. It is not everyone agreeing and my vision of my own nation. It is about accepting where people are at in that year or that place. You have to accept that your minority view is not the one in power. AND LET IT GO.
Accept that your shit is going to lose. Even though you know it is the best choice. Because the reality is that unless the majority are aware of the fragile truce of acceptance of visions of what you think should happen? Civil war is not far away for anyone Rancid.
Got to not be angry that your idea of what the USA should be is not in the power seat and let it go? There is never any peace. You have to YIELD. Force never works if you deal with democratic voting traditions.
I find most Reaganites, Bush followers, and Trump followers totally wrong on everything. But if they are the majority in a society and they vote and win an election? A defective system and a defective election process? Only the majority of the people have the responsibility to not do something better. You can't take the responsibility from their shoulders. That is what independence is about. It is not some other group that has to solve the problem.
The Mexicans know the Narcos are a problem. But unless they work on that in their own society? It won't change.
The Americans know guns and drug dealing are a problem in their own society. But they have to cope with it. Not expect some other nation to do the dirty work for them. Americans want action and they do not get it from the government. Because it is a sold-out government to powerful actors and they are part of Capitalism. Which is about power between those with money and those without. Democracy is bullshit to a capitalist. Otherwise, why bribe puppet leaders in other nations to ignore the needs of their own citizens? But, they sell themselves as being democratic. They are not. But the American voters are told they are the best way of making money and keeping their status in the world. It is a lie. But they believe it. A lot of lies Rancid.
Democracy is about understanding that if people want to believe a fucking lie their entire lives? Then they have to accept whatever flaws that society produces and do something about change. That is the truth of it.
You can't force people to believe in eliminating lies. They need to get fed up and upset enough on their own to take action. If they do not? They have to accept civil wars, lies, and problems until they finally realize what they thought was the monkey wrench to the system solution was autocratic regimes that failed all throughout history because it was an easier road to do that than have to accept the majority having to let go of lies.
It all has consequences Rancid. People do learn for sure. It costs them a lot.
AMLO said it well. In order for Mexico to have stopped being a plaything of the Spanish crown, or being invaded by France, and being invaded by the USA and having Chapultepec occupied, and the Mexican Revolution and all those bloody wars for freedom to rule themselves? They had to suffer over and through every problem to understand. Do you want to have a free nation? You will have to fight for it. And you will have to struggle. It is not the duty of the non-Mexicans to make it happen. It never was.
The US voters are going to have to accept if there is a civil war if they get fascistic and start doing crazy shit and lose power and drag the entire down with their lack of understanding.
But once they solve the problem? They emerge without a lot lies and a lot of pain and some resolutions. All that lying shit they have been subjected to for a long time has a price tag attached to it. They got to pay that price to improve. All nations do Rancid.
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