[FiveofSwords]

@FiveofSwords provide some data please.

@Rancid In the past was science also abused to prove the ruling dogma

Data of what? There is a random r1b population in sub sahara Africa, for example

[Skynet]

Data of what? There is a random r1b population in sub sahara Africa, for example

There were always migrations, the scientists can differentiate between R1b Teutonic or Slavic.




Can you provide some newer data about genetics and heritage?

[FiveofSwords]

There were always migrations, the scientists can differentiate between R1b Teutonic or Slavic.




Can you provide some newer data about genetics and heritage?

Lol well it should just be sufficient to say haplogroup only comes from a single chromosome. Race involves more than one chromosome. So they just will not map onto eachother well. But it is good to follow migrations because it doesn't change as much as other genes.

[JohnRawls]

[Skynet]

@FiveofSwords

Race involves more than one chromosome.

What is race? How to define it?

The different haplotypes prove any Nation is mixed even the nordic.

[Tainari88]

@FiveofSwords

What is race? How to define it?

The different haplotypes prove any Nation is mixed even the nordic.

Sacrilege! Blasphemy!

Skynet don't you feel altruistic just by having white skin and looking white with every white looking person on planet Earth?

Sing that Michael Jackson Paul McCartney song....say say say what you want...

These snake oil salesmen are always out there....saying say say say...

[FiveofSwords]

@FiveofSwords

What is race? How to define it?

The different haplotypes prove any Nation is mixed even the nordic.

So you can't tell when people are white or black or east Asian etc?

[Pants-of-dog]

@FiveofSwords is unable to provide a scientific basis for race.

He has claimed genetic clusters are a method of defining race. The website he cited describes clusters as arbitrary, variable, and incapable of being organized into distinct subgroups.

[FiveofSwords]

@FiveofSwords is unable to provide a scientific basis for race.

He has claimed genetic clusters are a method of defining race. The website he cited describes clusters as arbitrary, variable, and incapable of being organized into distinct subgroups.

Lol this is just very stupid. If this were true, nobody could visually identify white people from black people.

[Pants-of-dog]

Lol this is just very stupid. If this were true, nobody could visually identify white people from black people.

You specifically said that white skin is not a criterion for determining whiteness.

Now you are saying it is. This arbitrary, variable, and opaque nature of your argument supports the notion that race is a social construct rather than a biological reality.

[FiveofSwords]

You specifically said that white skin is not a criterion for determining whiteness.

Now you are saying it is. This arbitrary, variable, and opaque nature of your argument supports the notion that race is a social construct rather than a biological reality.

No,I'm not saying that lol. This is so stupid. White skin is only one difference between white and black people and it isn't an important one. There are albino black people, fyi. And you cannot actually turn black by painting your skin because your genes would be the same. I really don't understand how people get so stupid lol. This is all such a freak show.

[Pants-of-dog]

@FiveofSwords

On e again, you fail to provide a scientific basis for whiteness. Thank you for providing yet another example of the inability to show such a thing.

[FiveofSwords]

@FiveofSwords

On e again, you fail to provide a scientific basis for whiteness. Thank you for providing yet another example of the inability to show such a thing.

And you prove you don't even know what the word science means. Observing that people will tend to agree based on a picture whether a person is white or black is a valid scientific phenomenon. You don't even need to know genes exist. Science is just observation.

[Pants-of-dog]

@FiveofSwords

If you think that science is merely observation, then you are ignoring some basic concepts of science such as verification, empiricism, and logical consistency.

Have a pleasant evening.

[Unthinking Majority]

Care: 73
Fairness: 77
Liberty: 83
In-group: 70
Purity: 58
Authority: 60

[ingliz]

@FiveofSwords

You still haven't told us how you choose what cluster is important.

For example, would you have been looking at Neanderthal DNA?

One of the main genetic variants linked to COVID-19 severity is associated with a genomic region of around 50 kilobases in size humans inherited from Neanderthals.

Granted, Bangladeshis are most affected, but 16% of Europeans carry the gene segment.

[Godstud]

Care 50
Fairness 58
Liberty 44
In-Group Loyalty 75
Purity 65
Authority 62.

Interesting.

[FiveofSwords]

@FiveofSwords

You still haven't told us how you choose what cluster is important.

For example, would you have been looking at Neanderthal DNA?

One of the main genetic variants linked to COVID-19 severity is associated with a genomic region of around 50 kilobases in size humans inherited from Neanderthals.

Granted, Bangladeshis are most affected, but 16% of Europeans carry the gene segment.

Hold up. Are you admitting that clustering does exist?

[ingliz]

@FiveofSwords

When have I denied it?

I've said clusters are arbitrary, variable, and incapable of being organized into distinct subgroups.

And the clustering validity techniques used are open to bias, of course.

[FiveofSwords]

@FiveofSwords

When have I denied it?

I've said clusters are arbitrary, variable, and incapable of being organized into distinct subgroups.

And the clustering validity techniques used are open to bias, of course.

Well let me ask this...does the presence of a tiny vestige of Neanderthal DNA prevent such clustering? And if not, why did you bring it up? Red herring?