FiveofSwords wrote:No, ethnicity is cultural. Race is biological. A culture can create a race after a sufficient number of generations...but 100 years is not long enough. After 100 years people are still just living in an evolutionary mismatch. A point of equilibrium must be reached with an evolutionary stable strategy...it isn't set in stone how long that takes but a scientist could make an educated guess. There needs to be a fairly high mortality rate and immigration needs to be sufficiently low.
All of your theories Sword are going to be destroyed in the 20 minutes of the Zach presenter. The Scientist.
So unless you come up with something more updated using some certified geneticist--and other scientists--you will continue to argue for an artificial reality of race trying to justify a political and cultural point of view. It has to fit the Nazi narrative.
Either argue with the man in the video point by point. Trying to say none of us dummies can understand your great knowledge, which you continue to evade stating what your level of expertise in this subject is? You avoid that. You avoid a lot. You think your behavior is not being noticed or that the way you cope with rebuttals is not noticed? All of it is noticed. Many people are defined by what they do not say, rather than what they do say. Omission is a very common form of misleading people.
If you are confident in your education, knowledge and expertise, then just state it. I am sure @Fasces can go and do a search and find out if your name or writing style is consistent with your claims. Or it is all about some self-proclaimed expertise.
If he is right about you being booted from many fora, then PoFo is another place you want to 'shake up'.
BTW, in order for a human to impregnate an animal or another species than they are during a sexual act? That has never happened in the entire history of biology on Earth. Our genetics are only responsive for reproduction with a species that matches our 'clade' or specific set of instructions.
Genetics and biology are very intelligent. Let us take the example of the awful nuke that was thrown in Hiroshima and the next nuke thrown in Nagasaki, Japan in August of 1945. There were Japanese women who were pregnant in different stages of their pregnancies when the bombs were dropped. Some survived for a while after the impact. The fetuses though were arrested in their development in the wombs upon impact. The radiation did something weird. It had them give birth to fetuses with reptilian skin, and other features that were not human. Why? Because we now know that all of the previous stages of human lineage is cycled through before arriving upon the human species. In other words it is like a flash show, of do you remember when? When you were living in the oceans, and when you were just emerging from this stage of evolution? It is like a huge playing of all of our previous relationships and how you arrive at this stage of instructions...HUMAN instructions.
We biologically speaking carry the entire historical record of the natural world we have emerged from in our genes. The story of who we are are contained in that information. Our reptilian past, our primate past, our every step going forward. No, we can't get a chimp pregnant or a chimp male can't get a human female pregnant. Humans have a unique estrus cycle. That is not shared by the other great apes or primates. Humans are actually different in specific ways from chimps. Oppositional thumbs for example.
But why explain that to you? You are stuck on that Nazi explanation that has been thoroughly debunked since the 1970s by the above poster.
Nature does not forget where you have been. Biology does not forget. We still have a little bit of a tail left in the coxis. It once existed. For a long time we had no idea what the appendix's biological function was. We found out.
No, the Nazis want to make a fascinating, and interesting subject into some political weapon to create an ideal society that never existed. In their need for that? All they have created is untold suffering, pain and horror and immorality in their fellow human beings and in their fellow human societies.
Instead of learning from their mistakes, all they do is get upset about losing the power seat. Like spoiled children.
Your statements of wanting to kill people are very telling of where your 'goal' is in trying to 'share' your knowledge in PoFo.
There is nothing rational about wanting to kill people you do not know and never did you harm. It only reveals a serious problem with ethics, and with self control among other problems I will not mention.
When you can create fertile offspring no matter how isolated they have been from each other for a very long time...you have success in interbreeding. Which means that the entire species is compatible. It works. That is what science is concerned with. Not with some socially constructed biased and skewed ideas of who is the better 'race' and which race is supposedly not as good at a specific skill. It is not very analytical to not see the holes in those theories.
But when you are clouded with emotionally explosive ideas of power relationships in human political life it all becomes cloudy and not clear. The mind does not work well with all the emotional junk that exists when you are trying to convince the rest of your society that you are not violent when the entire history of it is problematic. What do people think about when they think of Nazis in America? Gentle people, who want to live in peace and who accept Black Americans and Latinos, and so on. Or racists and people who discriminate? You were so arrogant as to claim you knew me better than I know myself? Who the fuck says that shit? I would never claim to know you--a virtual stranger on the internet whom I do not know the age, or any real detail of....at all....and whom I never met before or read extensively on PoFo at all either. The only people who say that kind of nonsense are people who have deeply held prejudices and biases about other groups and people and it is clouding their rational minds deeply in every way. No great detective you need to be to figure that out.
Fascist nations exist and the governments are out there. There is no disputing that.
There are socialist and communist theory governments and they exist. There is no disputing that.
There are liberal democracies and capitalist economies out there and they exist. No disputing that.
The issue is about why the insistence on lies that do not pass the scientists who are working hard on these questions?
Why insist on lies?
Because when your entire political philosophy rests on lies in order to convince others? Then you have to insist on it.
But it does not mean we have to buy into the lying now, does it?
Just answer one question honestly Five--Do mixed societies biologically mixed societies and ethnically mixed societies exist in the past, and in the present? Yes or no? And what does that mean to a Nazi? Can you do that? Or is that too hard for anyone with logic to understand?
And your really stretching it with the chimp ability to have a human fertilize them and have a viable chimp human infant. That does not exist.
I am wondering how much lying are you going to do in this thread?
And healthy infants are born to mixed race healthy men and women all the time, and everyday. So where is this blanket or trying to make blanket statement that mixed race pregnancies wind up in spontaneous abortions due to the race instructions? That is another lie.
Most women have spontaneous abortions because it is a very complex set of circumstances to have an embryo fit the right set of conditions. The egg has to be healthy, the sperm has to be healthy, it has to swim and get to the egg before it is expelled and the uterine lining is old and not available to nourish the egg. It could be the woman had a lot of stress that month, or had drank meds that made the lining not thick enough to hold the embryo in place enough, or the instructions were faulty due to the egg not being a specimen that had the best set of conditions for a full term baby to develop.
Get real neonatal and fertility doctors who know the reasons why women wind up not being able to carry the child to term. All you do is distort and mislead Sword. Try something that is not as flimsy as you do.
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