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skinster wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3KPa_OfbEw





Who said anything about big victories? Why do Westerners project the savage tactics of Western wars onto their foes?

Russia has been gradually taking territory and disarming Ukrainian battalions, so much so that the Ukrainians have been dragging young men off the streets of cities all over Ukraine for months because they are losing, and losing badly. Just weeks ago Ukraine put into law the conscription of Ukrainians from other countries because of their ongoing losses.



:hmm:


So if they are disarming the Ukrainian army why is the frontline not collapsing? Disarmed units can't fight anymore. So it would be logical to see large scale collapses which we haven't seen. Its been all the same for the past 1 year+ of small miniscule gains either for Ukraine or Russia depending on who was attacking.

You argument about people getting dragged has been here since like 2022 summer which is almost 2 years now. What changed?

@Rich

Well good luck with that thinking. Basically you are saying the answer is yes which is ridiculous actually. The reality is that there can be many reasons and the most obvious reason is probably that the unit is moving in to the back to rest and recupirate for 1 month or so which they have done all the time.
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By litwin
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JohnRawls wrote:So if they are disarming the Ukrainian army why is the frontline not collapsing? Disarmed units can't fight anymore. So it would be logical to see large scale collapses which we haven't seen. Its been all the same for the past 1 year+ of small miniscule gains either for Ukraine or Russia depending on who was attacking.

You argument about people getting dragged has been here since like 2022 summer which is almost 2 years now. What changed?

@Rich

Well good luck with that thinking. Basically you are saying the answer is yes which is ridiculous actually. The reality is that there can be many reasons and the most obvious reason is probably that the unit is moving in to the back to rest and recupirate for 1 month or so which they have done all the time.


A Muscovite official came straight to a college to recruit 18-year-old schoolchildren to go to war. He brought with him one who expressed a desire to sign a contract with the Ministry of Defense to die in Ukraine, since there is "no work in his town, nothing to do".


Other than graduating from high school and being able to drive, it doesn't sound like Sasha possesses any skills. Hence, it will be off to the frontlines lickety-split. Even before the war Moscow horde was facing severe age-related demographic problems ... now they're facing a nightmare. Between the million+ young males (generally the most educated ones) who left the country in advance of mobilization and those being killed or crippled in Ukraine, Sasha's age cohort has been decimated. There simply won't be a "next generation OF THE PIG-DOGS"





By Rich
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There is no military justification for withdrawing those tanks. The Ukrainians have lost 5. That's a 16% loss rate over an extended period of time. The loss rate of their crews is going to be substantially lower than that. Compare that to the horrific casualty rates of Ukrainian front line infantry units. Many Ukrainian units have suffered well over 100% casualties at this point in the war. If the Ukrainians lost all 31 of their Abrams over a twelve month period of combat, it would not be a problem militarily. That would still be a good use of those resources.

But oh no we can't have that, that would be embarrassing.It might look bad for genocide Joe's reelection campaign It might also damage the marketing of the Abrams, which is still being exported in significant numbers. This is an example of the pathological narcissism of the western liberals. They want their absolutist victory conditions, but they're not willing to see a thousand or two thousand western tanks burned through on the Ukrainian battle field.

The man in the White House is a corrupt traitor and he needs to be removed in January if not before.
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litwin wrote:...Other than graduating from high school and being able to drive, it doesn't sound like Sasha possesses any skills...


This will make it a lot easier for oligarchs to kill Sasha and steal all the resources of Ukraine.

The oligarchs who want to control the resources of Ukraine are the reason for this war, and this war has provided nothing but death and destruction to the people of Ukraine, as well as an unending source of cocaine for Zelensky's nostrils and mega-money-laundering for all the other cheerleaders.

sountrack
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By Skynet
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For China is Russia the only big ally they have... Russia has strategically important ressources like Oil and a lot of food, in case of war with the USA, Russia would also provide weapons or join the war...

Chinese are the best workers but they are not known for bravery but everybody fears the Russian soldier.

Do you think US soldiers would conduct such suicidal attacks by storming enemy trenches???
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By Rancid
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Skynet wrote:Do you think US soldiers would conduct such suicidal attacks by storming enemy trenches???


No, that is not a part of US military doctrine. Democratic nations are less likely to do that because it would make the war unpopular faster than if a non-democratic nation did it.

Non-democratic regimes can absorb larger losses in that respect.
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By litwin
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QatzelOk wrote:This will make it a lot easier for oligarchs to kill Sasha and steal all the resources of Ukraine.

The oligarchs who want to control the resources of Ukraine are the reason for this war, and this war has provided nothing but death and destruction to the people of Ukraine, as well as an unending source of cocaine for Zelensky's nostrils and mega-money-laundering for all the other cheerleaders.

sountrack


Moscow empire TV promotes the return of punitive psychiatry

Tomorrow they will ask their viewers what kind of tortures should be applied. This’s dark, Moscow - Mongol horde is crazy place...



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By litwin
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Skynet wrote:For China is Russia the only big ally they have... Russia has strategically important ressources like Oil and a lot of food, in case of war with the USA, Russia would also provide weapons or join the war...

Chinese are the best workers but they are not known for bravery but everybody fears the Russian soldier.

Do you think US soldiers would conduct such suicidal attacks by storming enemy trenches???

China´s officials : CCP may end up assisting Chinese-speaking separatists in Manchuria with green men in unmarked uniforms.
Moscow empire consider themselves the best race in the world and Chinese inferior a race. The same applies to Ukrainians and other races. As a result they attack other people naturally. They couldn't help it.
THERE is the only one "Unequal Treaty" Which remains in force today, Which one ? and What does it mean for Moscow empire ?)
Outer Manchuria, refers to a colony of Moscow empire [1] in Northeast Asia that historically formed part of Manchuria, and now constitutes the southern part of the Moscow empire Far East. Manchuria, which more normatively refers to Northeast China, originally included areas in present-day Moscow Manchuria. Control of areas within the region was ceded to the Moscow Empire by the Qing China during the Amur Annexation in the 1858 Treaty of Aigun and 1860 Treaty of Peking,[4] with the term 'Moscow Manchuria' arising after the Moscow annexation.

China has ALREADY declared part of Moscow empire as its territory on new official maps China's state-owned Standard Map Service has presented a set of geographic maps for 2023, on which for the first time part of Moscow's territory is indicated as part of China. It is about the Bolshoy Ussuriysky Island on the Amur River.

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#15313739
Rancid wrote:No, that is not a part of US military doctrine. Democratic nations are less likely to do that because it would make the war unpopular faster than if a non-democratic nation did it.

Non-democratic regimes and absorb larger losses in that respect.

Ukraine has zeroed 25% of refinery processing, result of which diesel is no longer exported, but stays inside .

The news of Russia war cult fuel - the oil - being cut off is always so pleasant. Earlier reports signal 14% drop in oil refining due to successful strikes by Ukraine deep in the enemy territory. But the enemy at war with the world order has many followers e.g. Orban, Vivek, Trump, Moscow Marjorie ...

Make Mongol -Moscow horde Collapse Again!





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By Skynet
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@litwin Russia has no border dispute with China and they signed the final agreement 2005.

China needs Russia especially if the CCP wants to conquer Taiwan.

But I doubt China will wage war in the next 20 years, they have just to wait until the USA is bankrupt but if there is an huge economic crisis in China will the CCP have 2 options a possible insurgency or a war against USA & Co..
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Skynet wrote:@litwin Russia has no border dispute with China and they signed the final agreement 2005.

China needs Russia especially if the CCP wants to conquer Taiwan.

But I doubt China will wage war in the next 20 years, they have just to wait until the USA is bankrupt but if there is an huge economic crisis in China will the CCP have 2 options a possible insurgency or a war against USA & Co..


You think the USA might become bankrupt @Skynet ? Why?
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By Skynet
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Tainari88 wrote:You think the USA might become bankrupt @Skynet ? Why?

Due to debts of the USA (federal government) currently is 96% of GDP... if the USA continues making debts they will reach in max. 20 Years the point of no return:

https://markets.businessinsider.com/new ... sh-2023-10

I think we will see an earlier bankruptcy if the BRICS intodruce their own currency
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#15313829
Skynet wrote:Due to debts of the USA currently is 96% of GDP... if the USA continues making debts they will reach in max. 20 Years the point of no return where they can not pay the intrest rate...

I think we will see an earlier bankrupt if the BRICS intodruce their own currency


So you think that the bankruptcy might happen if the US Dollar is not the currency for oil? What would happen if the world starts using another form of renewable clean energy and oil loses all its value and the petrodollar is no longer important? Will competing currencies then step in the vacuum?

I find it all kind of science fiction based almost...but the crypto people are moving their money to islands in the Caribbean where they can get away from governmental taxation. It is interesting but a lot of crypto is just not to be trusted currently. Remember that guy who was caught and he was arrested for fraud and was a founder of a now defaulted and shut down crypto currency? I forgot his name?
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By Skynet
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I think the world needs one world currency just to make conversions easy to calculate (reference value).
It is not just Petro Dollar, 90% of international transactions are done in USD.

If the BRICS intodruce their currency they could topple the Dollar.

Oil will have a value because electricity is not available in many areas of global South and military purpose is oil important because it is the most energy dense ( energy per Liter) material we know.

Bitcoin is a cult who can last for ever... I need just cryptocurrencies like Monero to buy drugs for recreational usage... I do not see any other practical reason to use Crypto... as soon as quantum computers work are Cryptocurrencies nothing worth
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By litwin
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Skynet wrote:@litwin Russia has no border dispute with China and they signed the final agreement 2005.

China needs Russia especially if the CCP wants to conquer Taiwan.

But I doubt China will wage war in the next 20 years, they have just to wait until the USA is bankrupt but if there is an huge economic crisis in China will the CCP have 2 options a possible insurgency or a war against USA & Co..


agreement is a westren institute, and the orient rejects it as a concept, you as a muslim ´d know it well . " China" has had a 400 y-o. agreement with Portugal so what ?
Indian state TV : Gravitas: China claims ownership of a Muscovite city
#15313887
The Liberal loves the big lie. One of the Liberals big lies is that Lenin invaded Poland to create a Moscow ruled empire. In fact he invaded Poland in-order to create a Berlin ruled empire. This is what the "Socialism in one country " debate was really about. The Soviet Union, was a union of multiple countries and multiple nations. But Lenin and Trotsky both envisaged a Communist Empire ruled from Berlin. For both of them the purpose of the Revolution in Russia was to aid the revolution in Germany. Stalin's heresy was not "Socialism in one country", but "Socialism in Russia".

What's for certain is that Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin all knew that the Bolshevik Revolution would never have triumphed in Russia without the outsize influence of Jews, Latvians and other minorities of the Tsarist Empire.
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By litwin
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finally Muscovite imperialistic, passives made their coming out

ps Wow, what an annoying voice! her name is Yulia Vityazeva. Another collaborator. She will not last long...

Moscow propaganda finally admits very few Ukrainians are waiting for Moscow empire

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