Rich wrote:That's a bad model, go the bottom of the class. The effect of Jupiter's mass is significantly more important than the effect of the earth's mass on the Sun's position. Venus will also have more effect on the Sun's position that Earth's mass. I'm not sure where Saturn and Neptune fit into the mass effect hierarchy. The model of the sun moving around the earth is a perfectly good one for most purposes. The movement of planets around the earth doesn't help explain this apparent rotation of the Sun, because the planets revolve around the Sun in a positive or anti clockwise direction.
Of course for some purposes it makes more sense to model the earth as rotating and the Sun as still. There's probably a never ending series of complications you may want to introduce for ever more specialist tasks. You may want to add the in the Earth going around the Sun. And then you may want to add the complication of the Earth not moving with constant angular momentum. But most of the time these complications are just superfluous, most people I know seem to live quite happily with model that all days are 24 hours long. Most residents of Greenwich England seem happy to go with the model that mid day takes place at 12.00 GMT.
@Rich do you believe in Master Race theories made by the Neo Nazis in the USA? And that racial mixing is an abomination?
Do you think White Genocide is happening in the UK and the USA and in the Nordic nations and Denmark?
Do you dislike Paskistanis and Arabs and Muslims and Hindus and Africans from Kenya or many other ex British African continent colonies and Jamaicans etc present in the UK?
I just want to be clear where your mentality is at?
I have zero respect for Neo Nazis. Zero. I have zero respect for violent KKK members. One of them literally tried to murder my mother in a motel room when she was investigating a civil rights violation in the late nineties. The school principal hated Mexican American students who were bloody Papist that worshiped the Devil because the Pope was the devil and they were inferior racially and a six year old child was told he was not wanted in a public school funded by the state of Oklahoma and the Feds. The parents were upset that their little boy said he was called the son of Satan by his schoolteacher and the school principal and they filed a Civil Rights complaint with the Office of Civil Rights. My mother chaired a committee dedicated to investigation educational racism and claims of religious or ethnic discrimination. She drove to that little backwater town and interviewed the Principal of the school. He used racial slurs and the n-word and dirty beaners and so on. She got her evidence and called the office in DC. His MONEY would be cut off and he would be fired for being that way in violation of the law. She informed him of the likely consequences.
That asshole racist redneck, sent his goon squad (who happened to be the local sheriff of that little town in Oklahoma), and the man shot at the motel window when my mother was staying there. Almost killed her dead.
When I hear about this fucking Neo Nazis on PoFo claiming they are not violent in their racist belief system. And they claim at the same time of wanting to kill people....but they are not violent? IT IS A FUCKING LIE.
They all believe in killing the inferiors. Like my mother. Like me. And like my sons and my entire family. They are psychotic racist pig people.
If you are part of that mentality say so now on PoFo.
I do have experience with those people in the real world Rich.
They are dangerous and nasty human beings. And IGNORANT.
They call all us Latin Americans dumb, ignorant, inferior, uneducated, wetbacks, illegal aliens, can't speak English, animals and other offensive shit of the worst sort.
They do not respect people like my mother was, when she was alive. People with a lot of formal education, and real values about humanity being respected regardless of creed, religion, background, national origin or whatever. No. They want a white race war.
I will never go easy on those posters in this place. NEVER.
They deserve to be destroyed in debates.
And they are all a bunch of liars. They never study genetics, neuroscience, or biology with integrity. It is all skewed shit to justify some racist bend where supposedly White people are the superior race. They deny the Holocaust ever happened. And they really do want to be able to bomb and shoot anyone who speaks Spanish in the street like dogs. Another case my mother worked on.
I am not inventing these cases. Ask for the real links I will send them to you via PM.
I have no respect for these violent racist people. They can go straight to fucking HELL where they belong!!
And every election year they come out of the woodwork. Especially this year. They are hoping for a race war to go out and do their damage.
If you find yourself feeling identified with their 'problems'? You let me know.
I never thought you were that kind of person Rich? But one never knows how people get when they feel their world is under threat by the supposedly hordes of Brownies or Blackies or whatever the fuck these dumb ass racists call other people with impunity.
Pendejos. De primera.
As for @Potemkin arguing with you about the Sun and the Planets? Lol.
He should be arguing about the stupidity of racists. Races aren't real, but 'black' is real.
Lol.
This thread was a symphony of people arguing different angles.
My favorite lines were @Fasces and @ingliz short and to the point thoughts.
@Potemkin fell asleep I am sure in one of those answers.