[Rich]

We need to be aware that Mossad will be operating in these protests. We saw with the Lavon affair, just how far the Israeli state will go to demonise its enemies and advance the interests of their state. On the other hand we have Anarchists, Marxists, Jihadist Muslims and extreme Cultural Marxists in these protests, whose word is also not to be trusted.

[Pants-of-dog]

I think it is all about the money.

Do not misunderstand me. The genocide in Gaza is important, and the student protesters almost certainly have a sincere and heartfelt commitment to do what they can to stop the violence.

The reaction, however, seems disproportionate to the issue. Students often protest in ways that are just as unruly over other issues without inviting such a reaction from police, Congress, and donors.

But these protests are different in two ways involving money: 1. The protesters are asking for divestment, which can easily have a significant negative impact on university finances, and 2. Some of the people opposed to the protests are wealthy donors who can (and do) threaten significant negative impacts on university finances if the university does not react as the donors wish.

It is always about the money.

[Deutschmania]

I think it is all about the money.

Do not misunderstand me. The genocide in Gaza is important, and the student protesters almost certainly have a sincere and heartfelt commitment to do what they can to stop the violence.

The reaction, however, seems disproportionate to the issue. Students often protest in ways that are just as unruly over other issues without inviting such a reaction from police, Congress, and donors.

But these protests are different in two ways involving money: 1. The protesters are asking for divestment, which can easily have a significant negative impact on university finances, and 2. Some of the people opposed to the protests are wealthy donors who can (and do) threaten significant negative impacts on university finances if the university does not react as the donors wish.

It is always about the money.

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/ilhan-omar-twitter-anti-semitism-aipac-its-all-about-the-benjamins/

[Saeko]

Zionists just see people penned up in a cage and they just can't help themselves.

[wat0n]

The police didn't intervene when students took over buildings and started limiting access to the rest of the community:



But of course, those who want the return of numerus clausus like @Saeko and @Pants-of-dog have no problem with that.

Removing them using the cops was long overdue even if they believe it is no big deal to deny Jewish students access to education.

[Deutschmania]

Here is a news digest on the latest developments .

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/may/01/columbia-university-protest-live-updates-nypd-new-york-police-enter-campus-pro-palestinian-demonstrators-latest-news

https://www.theguardian.com/global/commentisfree/2024/may/01/yale-students-arrested-pro-palestine-protest

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/04/columbia-hamilton-hall-nypd-crackdown-occupation-campus-protests/

https://www.jta.org/2024/04/30/default/northwestern-students-agree-to-dismantle-anti-israel-encampment-as-columbia-protesters-take-over-university-building

https://www.jta.org/2024/05/01/ny/police-raid-columbia-u-building-occupied-by-anti-israel-protesters-arresting-dozens

https://www.jta.org/2024/04/30/politics/citing-antisemitism-house-republicans-take-aim-at-universities-funding-tax-exemptions-and-visas

https://www.jta.org/2024/05/01/politics/white-house-condemns-student-takeover-of-columbia-u-building-and-protesters-use-of-intifada

[Saeko]

Threatening old ladies? These guys MUST be IOF.

[wat0n]

Peaceful UCLA protesters playing chasing the Jew it seems.

[Saeko]

https://twitter.com/stephsvox/status/1785499792443138368?t=OAEBe0rhQvFmHVAN7Coe_Q&s=19

Peaceful UCLA protesters playing chasing the Jew it seems.

You're a shameless fucking liar, wat0n. That loon was clearly running INTO the encampment, not out of it.

[wat0n]

He was trying to escape the lynch mob after they blocked him from entering an UCLA building as is his right as a student.

But of course leftist segregationists won't let that happen.

[Pants-of-dog]

@wat0n has previously argued that someone was being harassed because he was prevented from taking pictures of protesters for the purposes of doxxing them.

[Saeko]

He was trying to escape the lynch mob after they blocked him from entering an UCLA building as is his right as a student.

He wasn't "escaping" anything. UCLA campus was closed yesterday, so no one technically has any legal right to be there. So if he was trying to get in, that means he was breaking in.

[wat0n]

@Pants-of-dog yes, and he was harassed even though he has the right - as a student - to take photos of anyone in a public area.

Now we see leftists harassing students for merely walking on campus or trying to access school buildings. It is even more necessary to document and denounce such behavior.

He wasn't "escaping" anything. UCLA campus was closed yesterday, so no one technically has any legal right to be there. So if he was trying to get in, that means he was breaking in.

UCLA's campus closed precisely as a result of this and other incidents. Like, for example, this one:



Also, the campus was not closed at the time.

At last, even UCLA's Chancellor said yesterday:

Many of the demonstrators, as well as counter-demonstrators who have come to the area, have been peaceful in their activism. But the tactics of others have frankly been shocking and shameful. We have seen instances of violence completely at odds with our values as an institution dedicated to respect and mutual understanding. In other cases, students on their way to class have been physically blocked from accessing parts of the campus.

[Saeko]

Really, wat0n? Anthony Cabassa? The self-described "Christo-fascist" is your source?

[wat0n]

Sounds like an ad-hominem and not a substantive argument.

Ignores other incidents also caught on camera and uploaded.

Even worse, even UCLA's Chancellor has confirmed the same thing: The protesters are harassing students and not letting them use the facilities they have a right to use.

[Saeko]

Sounds like an ad-hominem and not a substantive argument.

Ahh... now the guy who can't go five whole seconds without calling someone a "mass rape supporter" suddenly has a problem with ad-hominem attacks. Also, it's not an ad-hominem attack to call into question the credibility of a witness.

Ignores other incidents also caught on camera and uploaded.

99% of the incidents you've posted on here were obvious hoaxes or ones where you egregiously misrepresented what really happened.

Even worse, even UCLA's Chancellor has confirmed the same thing: The protesters are harassing students and not letting them use the facilities they have a right to use.

The UCLA Chancellor is not an objective party. Also, protesting by shutting down public or private services has long been a legitimate form of protest throughout American history. So take your legalistic bitching elsewhere.

[wat0n]

Ahh... now the guy who can't go five whole seconds without calling someone a "mass rape supporter" suddenly has a problem with ad-hominem attacks. Also, it's not an ad-hominem attack to call into question the credibility of a witness.

No, that's a simple statement of fact.

If you don't like being called mass rape supporter then quit supporting mass rapists. Simple.

99% of the incidents you've posted on here were obvious hoaxes or ones where you egregiously misrepresented what really happened.

No, they were not.

They were caught on camera.

Students being harassed were simply exercising their right to be on campus and use open spaces.

The UCLA Chancellor is not an objective party.

Indeed, he actually has every incentive to deny any of that happened since his inaction risked opening UCLA up to litigation. It may still happen if it hasn't already.

Also, protesting by shutting down public or private services has long been a legitimate form of protest throughout American history. So take your legalistic bitching elsewhere.

No, it has not.

It was not legitimate to take over schools and universities to protest desegregation, for example.

I wonder if you will say that enforcing civil rights law to desegregate schools was "legalistic bitching" too. Or segregation is fine when the ones being segregated are Jewish?

[paeng]

[KurtFF8]

Wrong, and if anything major Adams has said explicitly the onus falls on Columbia to request the city's help in dealing with the protests.

Columbia Said It Had ‘No Choice’ but to Call the Police

This is true of both police raids. You're just wrong about this. The original article I posted confirms this but if you need further confirmation about how you're, once again wrong:

https://ny1.com/nyc/manhattan/news/2024 ... s-continue

Eventually, the university authorized the NYPD to break up the encampment.

Funny coming from those who want to segregate Jewish students and bar them from accessing campus.

This is just an outright lie. Absolutely nothing I've said remotely resembles supporting such a nonsensical claim.

[wat0n]

Columbia Said It Had ‘No Choice’ but to Call the Police

This is true of both police raids. You're just wrong about this. The original article I posted confirms this but if you need further confirmation about how you're, once again wrong:

https://ny1.com/nyc/manhattan/news/2024 ... s-continue

It proves my point, actually. At the time of writing that post, the NYPD had not been granted access to Columbia because the university had not requested it. Mayor Adams was clear the university had to request that and that in his view he couldn't act without it.

This is just an outright lie. Absolutely nothing I've said remotely resembles supporting such a nonsensical claim.

Should civil rights law be enforced as to guarantee equal access to all students to all open spaces inside establishments of higher education?