- 16 Jun 2024 04:56
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Yep!
...And the Jewish Agency, which took the governmental functions of what became Israel.
Some of their grievances algo predate Israel's founding.
Hamas is the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, which was founded in 1928. Also, Hamas itself was simply the armed wing of the Mujama al Islamiya, a charity that was itself a branch of the MB in Palestine.
How so? You do realize that the first Israeli settlers went to the West Bank claiming properties they lost in the 1948 war and before it (e.g. in Hebron in 1929) right? It's why it proved extremely hard for Israeli moderates to stop the pressure to send settlers after the Six Day War, back then their expulsion had been fairly recent. Religious arguments weren't as prominent as they are now.
And of course islamists resented the Mandate itself.
Why?
A refoundation doesn't mean literally copying to the last detail whatever used to be in place before.
KurtFF8 wrote:Nope!
Yep!
KurtFF8 wrote:Who claimed they were? What predates Israel is the British Mandate of Palestine.
...And the Jewish Agency, which took the governmental functions of what became Israel.
KurtFF8 wrote:All Palestinians agree with this? Explain that one.
Some of their grievances algo predate Israel's founding.
KurtFF8 wrote:It's only you claiming that there is a direct lineage between the contemporary entities that didn't exist in 1948 and other organizations that did. Hamas, for example, wasn't founded until 1987.
Hamas is the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, which was founded in 1928. Also, Hamas itself was simply the armed wing of the Mujama al Islamiya, a charity that was itself a branch of the MB in Palestine.
KurtFF8 wrote:Here's where your point starts to fall apart. "Some of the grievances"
How so? You do realize that the first Israeli settlers went to the West Bank claiming properties they lost in the 1948 war and before it (e.g. in Hebron in 1929) right? It's why it proved extremely hard for Israeli moderates to stop the pressure to send settlers after the Six Day War, back then their expulsion had been fairly recent. Religious arguments weren't as prominent as they are now.
And of course islamists resented the Mandate itself.
KurtFF8 wrote:No one claims that Israel appears "from nowhere." It appeared from the context of the conflict in Europe and the zionist movement of the time. I hope you don't mean Israel was "refounded" rather than "founded" in 1948 of course. The idea that it was a "re" founding of a previous entity is ahistorical and false.
Why?
A refoundation doesn't mean literally copying to the last detail whatever used to be in place before.