- 03 Oct 2006 14:31
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Either you have no idea about France and the rest of the EU or you are warping facts. Taking 2 values from 2 different studies is by itself problematic. As such I provide a US based study from 2002 by Andy Kohut which is to my knowledge the only worldwide study on the importance of religion that uses a cohesive framework.
http://pewglobal.org/reports/pdf/167.pdf#search=%22Survey%20on%20Religion%20US%20Europe%22
But you are right there still is a difference in the importance between especially France and Poland. The difference between any other EU nation is quite low and even compared to the median both French and Polish deviations are not of that size that one could speak about a moral divide within the Union. Very similar differences probably can be found within the US between more secular states like California and states within the traditional south.
But what is shown as absolutly untrue is the religious difference of the new members compared to the older members. As can be easily seen with countries like the Czech Republic that is equaly secular as France or Italy or Austria which are much closer to Poland than they are to France on such a scale. As such religion never has been nor is a real dividing factor within the Union as the Union itself hardly encompases anything that is directly related to relgion. Though the way EU countries and the US handle specific aspects one principle remains with both, religion is mainly a private matter.
And to an outsiders point of view what I see as differences with Poland is not a religious problem or a moral problem but the intermingled concept of national catholicism that has no base in catholicism at all. Beeing myself a attending catholic what I see the more is a growing gap between Polish catholicism and that of the catholic chruch as Polish clergy lets itself been drawn into petty party politics. Something that has vanished from most other European countries.
rance is very distant in terms of values to Central Europe.
It has a large muslim population, is devoted to secularism, and infected by anti-americanism.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/rel_rate.htm
53% of Americans consider religion to be very important in their lives. This compares with 16% in Britain, 14% in France and 13% in Germany.
http://www.egospodarka.pl/14902,Polacy- ... ,39,1.html
Dla 77 procent Polaków religia jest ważna w życiu
For 77 percent of Poles religion is important in life.
Either you have no idea about France and the rest of the EU or you are warping facts. Taking 2 values from 2 different studies is by itself problematic. As such I provide a US based study from 2002 by Andy Kohut which is to my knowledge the only worldwide study on the importance of religion that uses a cohesive framework.
http://pewglobal.org/reports/pdf/167.pdf#search=%22Survey%20on%20Religion%20US%20Europe%22
But you are right there still is a difference in the importance between especially France and Poland. The difference between any other EU nation is quite low and even compared to the median both French and Polish deviations are not of that size that one could speak about a moral divide within the Union. Very similar differences probably can be found within the US between more secular states like California and states within the traditional south.
But what is shown as absolutly untrue is the religious difference of the new members compared to the older members. As can be easily seen with countries like the Czech Republic that is equaly secular as France or Italy or Austria which are much closer to Poland than they are to France on such a scale. As such religion never has been nor is a real dividing factor within the Union as the Union itself hardly encompases anything that is directly related to relgion. Though the way EU countries and the US handle specific aspects one principle remains with both, religion is mainly a private matter.
And to an outsiders point of view what I see as differences with Poland is not a religious problem or a moral problem but the intermingled concept of national catholicism that has no base in catholicism at all. Beeing myself a attending catholic what I see the more is a growing gap between Polish catholicism and that of the catholic chruch as Polish clergy lets itself been drawn into petty party politics. Something that has vanished from most other European countries.
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magna voce praedicamus: Hic et nunc Europa fit!
Litterisque dedicati unum semper petimus:
|: Deus, frater et Europa finis vitae maximus! : |