And I don't want EU to be a Franco-German protectorate.
That is, by all standards of sanity, a moronic statement. Get your definitions straight insted of just sputing buzzwords that suit your twisted view of reality.
Right now Poles are generating jobs and profits for EU. EU in return gives us fines, and people from Germany, England are buying up our house market, making it impossible to buy homes for Poles.
Care to provide a credible source for any of this?
Poland has its own R&D on pair of that of France or Germany in some areas. I see no reason to rely on countries that have proved several times they are hostile to interests of Poland.
If Poland can contribute, I'll be more than happy to see polish developements used in the german armed forces.
USA won't try to abolish our state. France and Germany are trying though.
Not true. You can polemically accuse me
of trying to 'abolish' your state because I am a federalist, but then you have to acknowledge that I want the same for both France and Germany. And even then your criticism would be grossly excessive in the face of intellectual honesty. Political propaganda, that's all it is.
Maybe they don't trust France and Germany, because already Polish firms are engaged in R&D with USA defence firms.
It has nothing to do with trust, but domestic politics. Under your proposals there would be no polish firms to engage in any R&D. Maybe you should clearly state the conditions of your statements, instead of just lumping it all together in order to support your preconceived conclusions.
You're arguing for dependency, and sacraficing a load of freedom of action in the process.
Not true. Under my proposals, individual citizens would have exactly the same and hopefully more political influence then they do now.
They already did. For example despite majority of people in Poland supporting death penalty, it is imposible to do so.
Poland has voluntarily
accepted EU human rights standards, and this is part of it. Moreover, Poland is perfectly free to leave the EU and do whatever it wants internally. I'm sure that's what you want. Does the majority of the polish people want that too?
In fact even discussion about it is forbidden.
Wrong. Provide some evidence to the contrary, then we'll talk.
There are no "europeans" they are Poles, Germans, Spaniards.
There are europeans, that is, the people that live in Europe, who are also
Poles, Germans, Spaniards etc. . I know exactly what you want to say here, but you try to say it by a allegation that is plain wrong. Political propaganda again.
In any poll of "europeans" the fact that Germany and France have bigger population will give distorted results, because opinion in other country will be drastically different from average answer in global "european" poll.
Distort certainly not the right word here. If ther's distorted representation anywhere in the EU, it's in the COM, where small countries are overrepresented
(with good reason, by the way).
National governments exist, because nations exist. Creating a state out of EU won't make nations and national interests disappear, in such state big nations will gradually dominate the smaller ones. Similiar things happened in the past. For example in Silesia, Ukraine, Lithuania etc.
Quoting those examples is utterly idiotic. I can think of one remotely aplicable example where such domination happened, that is the UK, and it is far from the kind of dominance you imply here. The overwhelming reason for english dominance that exists today in the UK is the huge population disparity - which does not exist
in the case of the EU. In fact, the only cases I can think of that are
comparable to the situation in the EU are american and indeed modern german federalism. In both cases, such dominance has not emerged.
This is ridicoulous comparision. You can't compare differences in USA states that have been together for 200 years to historic and cultural differences between nations that clashed with each other for almost 1000 years and sometimes their eradication was the main goal of opposing nation.
Nonsense. In fact, the US had even greater cultural and relitious differences to overcome in its nation building process than there ever were in Europe. The USA had a huge
civil war over the level of individual states' sovereignty. They are not the unitary state you keep describing them as.
Besides, the EU is based on the idea that historic antagonism can be overcome. You don't think historic antagonism can be overcome? Do you deny that every generation shapes its own fate?
Of course it could be towards smaller nations as Poles or Czechs.
Since when is Poland a small nation in an EU context?
Germany is still pushing for EU constitution and tries to bring Russian assistance against Central European countries.
National governments have a natural incentive to find partners that provide the best deal. You're so big an national interests, you should understand this. The national interests of your neigbours aren't going to go away if your sovereignty is strengthened - They are going to get stronger. If you want maxumum freedom of action for Poland and minimum freedom of action for Germany, you are indeed harbouring imperial desires of your own.
Of course they don't care. In fact Germany pursues an active role in making Central Europe defencless towards Russian energy blackmail:
Germany persues its own energy security, plain and simple. Doing that without regard to polish interest is legitimate under the guidelines of nationalism. Your bitching about it is legitimate too, but if you want a Europe that consists of perfectly sovereign nation states that each follow their own national interest, there's no way you can expect Germany to feel obliged to give a flying fuck about polish energy security.
That's different in a federal Europe.
USA is far away and has no territorial or historic antagonism against us. Germany and Russia do
Germany has shown its capability and willingnes to overcome historic antagonism. You, and by that I mean you personally, are maintainig and exacerbating historic antagonism. You
are the hatemonger here, noone else.
M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic
gainsaying of any statement the other person makes. (short pause)
A: No it isn't.