@QatzelOk you know what I really enjoy about you is you often write thoughts that are very unconventional and it jogs something in my mind that I was unaware of before and it makes me take it to a new goal or path or conclusion. I really like that. I hope we have more debates about these type of topics in the future.
Well, you said this:
It ruined the group genetically, but not each individual ex-slave. You have put forward the idea that "surviving the death ship voyage" eliminated the weak. But this is a one-time event, and it eliminated those whose immunity to disease was weak for whatever reason... not just genetic weaknesses.
I am talking about the way that 20 generations of skinny intellectual African slaves were eliminated from the gene pool of Western hemisphere slaves, thus creating a "fake" gene pool that doesn't include some very important manifestations of intelligence and strong will.
This strongly affected the slave cultures of the Americas, and to lesser degrees it affected all the fake-criteria-choosing peoples of the world who fell for ideological and socially-constructed rules to marriage and child creation. We have all been victims to some degree of this genetic destruction, but muti-generation slaves were the most controlled - the most destroyed in terms of variety.
Slaves were forced to eliminate their intellects and free thinkers, while most civilizations simply encouraged their human cattle to pursue this through sanctions like social rejection because "married the wrong person" (from another race, too independently minded, not enough of a slave to economic enrichement, etc.)
The African-American community of 2024 has still not recovered from this forced loss of important survival characteristics, a loss that was forced on them by racism-practicing slaveowners (who are still with us today in our elites).
Oh Q, I would never have adopted my eldest son at all if I thought that way darling. Never. He was way behind academically and was thought incapable of finishing high school much less the university in any real capacity. All his social worker people thought him a slow learner and not only that had a terrible attitude. A real challenge. He was highly unlikable and had Oppositional Defiant Disorder. ODD. I think his IQ score was 88 and his father was in jail for life for murdering people and would never get out, his bio father was also a domestic violence man with the mother and tried to choke her to death a couple of times. He never gave a rat's ass about his own son. The social worker in charge of his case went to the prison Q, to ask to take a picture of him and for him to sign his parental rights to his son for legal purposes. He signed the paperwork but refused to have his picture taken to give to his son. My adopted son. Why? 'I do not give a shit about bastard or his bitch of a mother too.' Those were his kind last words for his only child. What a sweetheart of a man eh?
His mother was a hardcore drug addict Q. She did drugs during all the pregnancies. She had three kids. All from different fathers of different races. Her eldest son that was 4 years older than my adopted son, was half Mexican and half African American. He was the eldest. And that kid had to dig through trash bins looking for dinner for his younger brother to eat something with, because she would be gone days on a drug binge and would leave the kids fending for themselves without adult supervision and no dinner cooked or money to buy food with. Nothing. When she was present she was sleeping off the effects of her drug problems and would awaken in a foul mood and beat the kids but mostly only my son because the was the darkest of the three and the only one with a Black father who hated her. She beat him black and blue because she was in a bad mood. She took drugs during her pregnancies. Crack, beer, marijuana, and maybe heroin they were not sure. But my son the middle child was born almost two months early due to her drug use during pregnancy and had to be placed in an incubator in Phoenix Arizona where he was born. He weighed 4 pounds only at birth and cried nonstop due to the crack addiction.
I do not want to tell you how it was with him and trying to cope with an eight-year-old who is suicidal and does not want to live anymore and you are an adoptive parent with no other children and no experience in raising kids with emotional disturbances. I was told he would amount to nothing and not to expect him to learn Spanish or do well in school. He was working at a first-grade level of reading and math when I adopted him and he was way behind in school though he was in a third-grade classroom. The foster parents he was at when we met him, were good people but she had a lot of those kids in her home and to keep them quiet and compliant she gave them a Nintendo Switch videogame in their home. She could go shopping and clean and do errands and not be dealing with a lot of impertinent questions. Her own biological children had great grades in school and became doctors and engineers, but that woman did not bother putting that kind of effort into her foster kids because they were challenging. Wanting to be with parents that they thought of as their mom and dad but who failed them due to drugs and many problems that the US has galore in its society and which they refuse to remedy.
I remember the conversation I had with his social worker. She was a 30-year veteran of the system of child welfare in Colorado. She told me, 'if you can get him through each grade with passing grades it is going to be a great thing. I do think trying to teach him Spanish at this late stage in his life is too much for him. He has a lot of trauma. You need to be realistic.'
What happened with the 88 IQ score traumatized kid? African American son of mine? The one that everyone disliked, and wrote off as a born-to-lose person?
Well, he got into a basketball team, worked hard at basketball, I got him into an International Baccalaureate program (IB) program with an elementary school that was dual language like @Rancid's children are in Q...and I fought hard. For his education. His father fought hard. That kid gave us a lot of trouble Q. A lot of trouble. It was a mighty battle to get him to work hard, believe in himself, and to start understanding that he had to achieve through his own will.
He learned Spanish fluently. He started getting decent grades, I threw away most of his videogames and shit. And restricted all that. Got him into sports if he wanted to get aggressive do it on the basketball court. I would talk about African American history when he was willing to listen to it.
He was threatened by a neighbor's friend who was a Neo-Nazi. The man moved in next door to us and grew over 1000 marijuana plants in Colorado. It stunk. He attracted weird people to his home. Two of them broke in one day and stole some tools and stuff. They escaped using our patio and jumped our short front fence with the tools and some neighbors saw it. Mexican neighbors. The neighbors said they were black or might have been black. So? The asshole neighbor comes to accuse my husband who was watching a basketball game at the time with our son too, who loved basketball to accuse our son of having stolen the tools because all those 'Black' thieves are all the same. And we were harboring the thief in our home. My husband tried to reason with him. I was at work at the time. Not home. I did not see the incident.
The neighbor was told in no uncertain terms that our son was not involved. He did not believe my husband and believed the dumb neighbors who only knew Black people on TV and none in real life since they were Latinos with limited social circles. And watched too much junk TV with stereotypes. You know how that goes Q.
Anyway, my husband repeated to the neighbor that our son was watching basketball and was not involved. The neighbor said that my husband was a liar and threw a beverage in his face. Now, my husband grew up in a bad barrio in Puerto Rico. With golden glove boxers and a lot of if you are a dude in that environment you do not back down. He told me he slapped the guy. But, later on my son and then the cop report said he punched that neighbor hard and knocked him out. They called the cops and charged my husband with battery. The asshole neighbor had a long record of bar fights and bullshit but he did not get a citation. Even though the neighbor was in our backyard and was told politely to leave and instead escalated the incident. Do I think they favored the white guy? The asshole? YES I DO.
Then had to hire a lawyer. Deal with the issues. Two weeks later some dude on a motorbike with Neo Nazi tatoos shows up and he has a gun. My husband is backing up from the back parking at our home, the Nazi says, 'You know it is not good to harbor a thief. That thieving n word is gonna get shot dead on his way to school.' And threatened him and my husband. And I said to my husband did you get the guy's plates? No, they are small and he left quickly. I thought, all these years getting that kid stable and doing well and these fucking racist motherfuckers are going to come along and shoot my boy dead in the street over a crime he did not commit Q. Over what? Marijuana shit and some hoods that stole some tools and racist thinking.
I made sure my son was safe. He finished high school out of state with the help of a friend who was a judge. Got good grades. Finished high school, enrolled in college, finished college on the Dean's list. His IQ jumped to 118. Why? ENVIRONMENT. VALUES. LOVE. RESPECT. DEDICATION. The difference that people need in this world to be successful and not fail!! It is not fucking genes. It is WORK. Hard ass work, and caring. Despite that these fucking racist, violent motherfuckers do in the world to make it shitty. You do your WORK. You do what has to be done to give these beautiful children who need love and caring and respect a CHANCE at life.
They can stick their fucking racist LIES right up their asses. They are not doing anything to make a better society. All they are doing is creating the conditions for a civil war and their own children are the ones who are going to be lying bleeding and dying in the street like mad dogs. Why? They choose to hate and to discriminate. They chose it. Do not make excuses for that behavior the ones who sympathesize with these people.
I never will respect that thought process Q.
For me it is not about the African Americans who due to slavery became the worst of society or something like that. NO, it is about how the collective of all the people in the USA do not do what is necessary to CHANGE the society when they have a chance. I am not rich. I am not from the elite. I can't adopt 10 kids and put the money and time that requires. I could only adopt one kid. That is all I could do. I was blessed at age of late 40s to have a biological child of mine. A big surprise. And the moment that baby was born, my older son was a proud older brother. You can't say one negative thing about my older son in front of him because he will defend him tooth and nail. True loyalty to his big brother and his big brother is loyal to him. They do not look like each other. Physically not at all. There is a 13 and a half year age difference between the two also.
My older son called me yesterday on Mother's Day to say how much he loves me and appreciates me. He is coming for Christmas. He does not want to come during the summer when it is way too hot over here. I do not blame him. Lol. He lives in Denver, Colorado. He has his own business. Something he wants to do. He graduated with honors in Science and Biology. He was on the Dean's List.
The supposed loser who was born to lose. Be violent. Be in jail. Be another statistic.
No, you change people with love, compassion, hard work, tolerance and discipline. And you love them for who they are. You develop their potential. And the results are AMAZING. I can die happy knowing my son told me 'I love you Mom. Happy Mother's Day.' The kid that was unlikable and no one thought could turn out to be such a success.
All of us are untapped human potential. If we stop the hate. The lack of respect. And start doing a lot for others who have no one to count on in this world. You have to be responsible and be trustworthy. Love society even if society does not love you Q.
I will never respect Nazi mentalities. Sorry. I can't do that.
Do not ask that of me. I had too many real-life experiences with them to think those people were on the right path in life. They are not. They are only going to bring civil war and chaos. And anyone who does not understand that is either naive or living in denial.