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#14839917
Young people are now more right-wing and authoritarian in their views than previous generations

However:
“They’re much less concerned about religious beliefs or whether you’re gay, lesbian or straight, which people were previously more concerned about. They are much more accepting of diversity, but they are also much more accepting of economic inequality.”


What do you think? A good trend or a bad trend?
#14839947
It is a trend. I would call it normal rather than good or bad. When things go too far one way, people will then want them to go back the other way. Both sides screw over the middle class and they futilely switch back and forth looking for fairness where there is none.
#14840551
I'd be careful with the terminology of PolSci studies. In this study they call Thatcher an authoritarian populist. The questions they asked to determine right-wing and authoritarian tendencies are:
What do you think about the income gap between the rich and the poor in the UK today? (1=About Right, Too Small; 0=Too Large)
Government should redistribute from the better off to the less well off. (1=Disagree, Strongly Disagree; 0=Neither, Agree, Strongly Agree)
Government should spend more money on the poor even if it leads to higher taxes. (1=Disagree, Strongly Disagree; 0=Neither, Agree, Strongly Agree).
Opinions differ about the level of benefits for the unemployed. Which of these best reflects your opinion? (1=Benefits are too high and discourage people from finding jobs; 0=Other response categories i.e. Benefits are too low and cause hardship, Neither, Both cause hardship, Some people benefit, Some people suffer, About right, Other)
The unemployed could find a job if they wanted to. (1=Agree, Strongly Agree; 0=Neither, Disagree, Strongly Disagree)
People should learn to stand on their own feet. (1=Agree, Strongly Agree; 0=Neither, Disagree, Strongly Disagree)

The death penalty is appropriate for some crimes. (1=Agree, Strongly Agree; 0=Neither, Disagree, Strongly Disagree)
People who break the law should be given stiffer sentences. (1=Agree, Strongly Agree; 0=Neither, Disagree, Strongly Disagree)
Schools should teach children to obey authority. (1=Agree, Strongly Agree; 0=Neither, Disagree, Strongly Disagree)

The last three seem to be the variables that make one authoritarian.

I'm mentioning this because you put your OP in this subforum and the study has nothing to do with authoritarian government.
#14841963
Atlantis wrote:It's the counter revolution. They are trying to revers the 68 cultural revolution, yet they have no idea what it was like before.

They know that 68rs are full of fetid shit. I don't think they are going back to the 50s but rather they leaving the duped 68ers and their goofy beliefs behind.
#14841982
They are much more accepting of diversity, but they are also much more accepting of economic inequality.


I think this is just typically British. The class divide is too obvious and there is nothing they can do about it. "Right-wing and authoritarian" means that young British people are pro-monarchy. £17,604 is equivalent to $23,251.



Fees at Thomas's Battersea cost £17,604 a year and increase in year 3.

If George stays at the selective establishment throughout, until the end of Year 8 when he turns 13, the total cost will be £172,116.

The school has 560 boys and girls aged from four to 13, with around 20 in each class.

The Good Schools Guide described Thomas's Battersea as "big, busy [and] slightly chaotic school" popular among "cosmopolitan parents".

http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/850 ... s-revealed
#14841991
They are not more authoritarian. It is social and economic liberalism. In other words it is classical liberalism, the antithesis of authoritarianism. They are just becoming more liberal, in the classical sense. It's hedonism, individualism and every man for himself. None of this surprises me. The young people I encounter on a day to day basis are all ultra-liberal. It is possible to embrace this way of thinking only in an absence of culture. People now days do not need community because they can live in virtual reality with social media, video sharing websites and online entertainment. The natural bonds of kinship and connection to a national community or greater ideal are non-existent. Therefore only the individual remains.

I believe that the average person in most English speaking countries lives as a sort of atomised invidual. They do not have a nation, an ethnicity or a religion. They simply live as individuals. Their main interest is their career development and the accumulation of wealth. Free time is spent watching movies online, playing games or looking for the next date on an online dating website. Friendships are very superfical and are based on fleeting associations through work or specific contexts. It is a most vapid and depressing existence. An existential nightmare for any thinking person.

The social and economic political values outlined in the article are just the expression of this way of life and mentality. The young people do not want socialist policies because they do not want to have to pay for anyone else but themselves. And they are socially liberal because they couldn't care less about what other people do. It's really social darwinism and classical liberalism taken to it's highest conclusion.
#15041408
Haven't read the article yet, but it would make perfect sense. I've met lots of right-wing nationalistic types that are my age. I also have met lots of full-blown communists that are my age. People on the left are moving further to the left, and people on the right are moving further to the right. This is not going to change anytime soon, because people are desperately looking for meaning and identity in an increasingly globalized and soulless world.

Most people are still liberal though, or a type of conservative that is okay with butt sex.
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#15041410
Political Interest wrote:They are not more authoritarian. It is social and economic liberalism. In other words it is classical liberalism, the antithesis of authoritarianism. They are just becoming more liberal, in the classical sense. It's hedonism, individualism and every man for himself. None of this surprises me. The young people I encounter on a day to day basis are all ultra-liberal. It is possible to embrace this way of thinking only in an absence of culture. People now days do not need community because they can live in virtual reality with social media, video sharing websites and online entertainment. The natural bonds of kinship and connection to a national community or greater ideal are non-existent. Therefore only the individual remains.

I believe that the average person in most English speaking countries lives as a sort of atomised invidual. They do not have a nation, an ethnicity or a religion. They simply live as individuals. Their main interest is their career development and the accumulation of wealth. Free time is spent watching movies online, playing games or looking for the next date on an online dating website. Friendships are very superfical and are based on fleeting associations through work or specific contexts. It is a most vapid and depressing existence. An existential nightmare for any thinking person.

The social and economic political values outlined in the article are just the expression of this way of life and mentality. The young people do not want socialist policies because they do not want to have to pay for anyone else but themselves. And they are socially liberal because they couldn't care less about what other people do. It's really social darwinism and classical liberalism taken to it's highest conclusion.


Most (young) people are content with living meaningless lives, I'm sad to say. They have successfully been domesticated by people that are giving them Marvel, porn, videogames and so on. Their ''identity'' pretty much consists of collecting Star Wars figures and following their favourite football club. They fill up the void in their lives with stupid crap, as their country is being destroyed and integrated into the global order.
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