Steve_American wrote:Lordy, lordy, lordy, you do believe every fake news story that you see in your media of choice.
Repuds look hard to find evidence to prove such claims, and low and behold they find about 20 examples IIRC across the whole nation per election.
Yes, Trump say 3 million illegals voted for HRC in 2016, but he put forward not 1 shread of evidence.
No I do not believe the Fake news stories put out by CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, and Washington Post. But I do believe these reports:Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote
June 3, 2015 By Stephen Frank 59 Comments
As we always knew, California and American elections are filled with fraud and corruption. Thanks to a new poll, we now know that approximately 13% of illegal aliens vote. Since they are already criminals, stealing ID’s or using phony ID’s. lie to get welfare, steal jobs—why not vote as they to lose. Since they can not be deported or jailed, they have nothing to lose. Obama is protecting these law breakers.http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoli ... they-vote/Trump Is Right — Millions Of Illegals Probably Did Vote In 2016
A 2014 study in the online Electoral Studies Journal shows that in the 2008 and 2010 elections, illegal immigrant votes were in fact quite high.
"We find that some noncitizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and congressional elections," wrote Jesse T. Richman, Gulshan A. Chattha, both of Old Dominion University, and David C. Earnest of George Mason University.
More specifically, they write, "Noncitizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress."
Specifically, the authors say that illegals may have cast as many as 2.8 million votes in 2008 and 2010. That's a lot of votes. And when you consider the population of illegal inhabitants has only grown since then, it's not unreasonable to suppose that their vote has, too.
Leftist get-out-the-vote groups openly urge noncitizens to vote during election time, and the registration process is notoriously loose. To suggest there is no illegal voting at all is absurd.
When the far left began insinuating that the Russians had hacked the election, the media treated the nonsupported claims with the utmost of respect. They still do. But not Trump's suggestion that illegals voted, and in large numbers, mainly for Democratic candidates, including Hillary Clinton. A Rasmussen Reports poll earlier this year found that 53% of the Democratic Party supports letting illegals vote, even though it's against the law. It's pretty clear why.https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... e-in-2016/Report: ‘Substantial Evidence’ Over a Million Illegal Aliens Voted in 2016
But according to California attorney and LawNewz contributor Robert Barnes, there is “substantial evidence” to make a great case. He writes:
The best study on the subject — a study that meets the Daubert standards for admissible evidence in a jury trial in a legal courtroom — provides substantial evidence that non-citizen voting alone likely reached over a million in this election. A trio of well-regarded scholars used scientifically approved methods to study the question of non-citizen voting in federal elections. The result of their study published in one of the best-regarded peer-review political science journals, Electoral Studies. The evidence from their study suggested upwards of 10% of non-citizens voted in 2008; given the issues implicated in this election, a higher number would be a reasonable inference for a jury to conclude. Given the increase in non-citizen members of the population, the same study’s conclusions would project out to millions of illegal votes from non-citizen voters in this election.
But that’s just the start. Those numbers don’t include other instances, such as illegal votes, illegally counted votes or counties and precincts which “accidentally” over-counted votes, states Barnes.https://www.truthrevolt.org/news/report ... voted-2016