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How many bribes to major banking officials do you need to cause economic problems?

Probably not that much.

Add a few cyber attacks to major corporations and state apparatuses.

Bribe some trucker and other distributor unions to go on strike at a crucial time.

Get a few newspaper editors to make stories about how the economy is falling apart.

And this is just off the top of my head. Imagine what the CIA could think up.
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Pants-of-dog wrote:How many bribes to major banking officials do you need to cause economic problems?

Probably not that much.

Add a few cyber attacks to major corporations and state apparatuses.

Bribe some trucker and other distributor unions to go on strike at a crucial time.

Get a few newspaper editors to make stories about how the economy is falling apart.

And this is just off the top of my head. Imagine what the CIA could think up.


You forgot about hiring gangs to create general civil unrest. That one works pretty well too.
#15029041
Pants-of-dog wrote:How many bribes to major banking officials do you need to cause economic problems?

Probably not that much.

Add a few cyber attacks to major corporations and state apparatuses.

Bribe some trucker and other distributor unions to go on strike at a crucial time.

Get a few newspaper editors to make stories about how the economy is falling apart.

And this is just off the top of my head. Imagine what the CIA could think up.


It just doesn't work that way. If it was that simple then this would work visa versa. But it simply doesn't.
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JohnRawls wrote:It just doesn't work that way. If it was that simple then this would work visa versa. But it simply doesn't.


What a load of rubbish, he may well be fat, a greasy stoned old onion, and a raving loony druggie slummy thug, but Gaido is bad as well.

Typical western imperialiast warmongering & regime change being spouted by the amoeba...."any change is better than this". Libya.. Pinochet... thousands of examples where western intervention royally fucked things up.

Sorry, but no one with a shred of intelligence in Europe is busy following Trump's tub thumping on this one. PS: Despite Maduro's gangsterism; the '13 elections were rated as more democratic than the US's lol..and the subsequent later elections suffered from US interference both times. So technically this mess is 100% purely the fault of the US of A and her fat, hairy brainless slug acolytes in Europe and elsewhere.. :roll:
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Presvias wrote:What a load of rubbish, he may well be fat, a greasy stoned old onion, and a raving loony druggie slummy thug, but Gaido is bad as well.

Typical western imperialiast warmongering & regime change being spouted by the amoeba...."any change is better than this". Libya.. Pinochet... thousands of examples where western intervention royally fucked things up.

Sorry, but no one with a shred of intelligence in Europe is busy following Trump's tub thumping on this one. PS: Despite Maduro's gangsterism; the '13 elections were rated as more democratic than the US's lol..and the subsequent later elections suffered from US interference both times. So technically this mess is 100% purely the fault of the US of A and her fat, hairy brainless slug acolytes in Europe and elsewhere.. :roll:


Utter nonsense. How is an election where parties are banned/split and where a 2nd parliament is created to compete with the 1st parliament democratic in any sense?

As for economic collpase via bribery... If it worked that way then why does Venezuela not buy out US people and make US economy collapse? Or China? Or USSR? etc
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Argue with the facts, it's not what I want to be true, it's what IS true:

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2 ... igned.html

And what are you talking about economic collapse via bribery?

Some fun facts for you:

It's PROVEN that the CIA were behind the Yeltsin coup in USSR..
China was under intense pressure when Mao decided to turn towards capitalism in the 70s..

The economic collapse is a direct result of sanctions in VE's case.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 48201.html

And according to another WSJ piece; the interference started in Venezuela started in 2012. I'll try and find the article later. So the 'utter nonsense' isn't coming from me..
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Presvias wrote:Argue with the facts, it's not what I want to be true, it's what IS true:

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2 ... igned.html

And what are you talking about economic collapse via bribery?

Some fun facts for you:

It's PROVEN that the CIA were behind the Yeltsin coup in USSR..
China was under intense pressure when Mao decided to turn towards capitalism in the 70s..

The economic collapse is a direct result of sanctions in VE's case.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 48201.html

And according to another WSJ piece; the interference started in Venezuela started in 2012. I'll try and find the article later. So the 'utter nonsense' isn't coming from me..


Good luck arguing that elections in Venezuela are more democratic-open than the US elections. Especially the latest presidential ones for Maduro.

As for collapse thing. We were talking about bribery and there is literally NO OFFICIAL evidence besides conspiracy theories about Yeltsin being a US puppet. So try again.
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^ Wow, you really are brainwashed aren't you.. :O

Yeltsin nothing to do with the west?

Ok if you can't even accept widely proven truthes like that, there's no point carrying on. The us flag waving hairy sluggy amoebaish types, plus the stoned old onions in VE's govt right now will continue to ride roughshod over the people, and it's largely America's fault..
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Presvias wrote:^ Wow, you really are brainwashed aren't you.. :O

Yeltsin nothing to do with the west?

Ok if you can't even accept widely proven truthes like that, there's no point carrying on. The us flag waving hairy sluggy amoebaish types, plus the stoned old onions in VE's govt right now will continue to ride roughshod over the people, and it's largely America's fault..


Yeltsin was not a puppet of the west. He wasn't bribed even. He was a more than everage incompetent president of Russia ruling it at a time of weakness and collapse of the Soviet Union. He had no choice in the matter of not agreeing with some of the things the West requisted because they just lost the cold war. It was not a very prudent decision by the West because the extravagance of post-cold war Versailles on Russia is haunting us now with Crimea for example. (Yeltsin went batshit when Crimea wasn't given back to Russia during his time. There are transcripts of calls) CIA had no fucking clue of how to collapse Russia. Most of the former CIA analysts and cold war analysts were shocked when it happened. In a sense they never expected that Russian nationalism would collapse the USSR.
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