- 28 Nov 2019 18:51
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I said "it's also silly to think you would be required to share your wealth under socialism." I didn't say anything about BUILDING wealth under socialism. And of course, if socialism has been fully established in a nation as a finished, functioning system, then by definition you most likely would not be allowed to start a business that included employees and produced a privately-owned profit. Laws would specify, in all likelihood, that business profits must be distributed according to Articles of Incorporation that provided for the business to be a worker-owned, worker controlled cooperative enterprise under the laws of the state.
Irrelevant. He doesn't live under socialism.
I will. It's not that simple. Do you know the effect hydrogenated oil (Crisco for example) has on health? As a former chemist who worked in a lab where we hydrogenated oils, I know what it's about and the effect of cis-trans isomers have. Also, do you know the effects HFCS has on the body? (More to follow.)
"Obesity is a complex health issue to address. Obesity results from a combination of causes and contributing factors, including individual factors such as behavior and genetics. Behaviors can include dietary patterns, physical activity, inactivity, medication use, and other exposures. Additional contributing factors in our society include the food and physical activity environment, education and skills, and food marketing and promotion."
https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/adult/causes.html
Certainly calorie intake is a big factor, and calorie intake increases when the diet is confined to low-cost, low-quality foods and "junk foods". Hence, in the US we find higher rates of obesity among the poorer sections of society, although it is a complex subject with influences of ethnicity, race, and family history.
"Overall, men and women with college degrees had lower obesity prevalence compared with those with less education."
"Among women, obesity prevalence was lower in the highest income group than in the middle and lowest income groups. This pattern was observed among non-Hispanic white, non-Hispanic Asian, and Hispanic women." - https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html
But this is getting off-topic.
Julian658 wrote: OK, so if I live in a socialist nation I could become a billionaire if I work hard? Is that correct? Could I still practice capitalism in a socialist nation?
I said "it's also silly to think you would be required to share your wealth under socialism." I didn't say anything about BUILDING wealth under socialism. And of course, if socialism has been fully established in a nation as a finished, functioning system, then by definition you most likely would not be allowed to start a business that included employees and produced a privately-owned profit. Laws would specify, in all likelihood, that business profits must be distributed according to Articles of Incorporation that provided for the business to be a worker-owned, worker controlled cooperative enterprise under the laws of the state.
Bill Gates reveals the 2 reasons he's giving away his $90 billion fortune
Irrelevant. He doesn't live under socialism.
Calories in>calories out = obesity. No point in denying this.
I will. It's not that simple. Do you know the effect hydrogenated oil (Crisco for example) has on health? As a former chemist who worked in a lab where we hydrogenated oils, I know what it's about and the effect of cis-trans isomers have. Also, do you know the effects HFCS has on the body? (More to follow.)
High-income countries have greater rates of obesity than middle- and low-income countries (1). Countries that develop wealth also develop obesity; for instance, with economic growth in China and India, obesity rates have increased by several-fold (1). The international trend is that greater obesity tracks with greater wealth (2,3).
Poverty and Obesity in the US
"Obesity is a complex health issue to address. Obesity results from a combination of causes and contributing factors, including individual factors such as behavior and genetics. Behaviors can include dietary patterns, physical activity, inactivity, medication use, and other exposures. Additional contributing factors in our society include the food and physical activity environment, education and skills, and food marketing and promotion."
https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/adult/causes.html
Certainly calorie intake is a big factor, and calorie intake increases when the diet is confined to low-cost, low-quality foods and "junk foods". Hence, in the US we find higher rates of obesity among the poorer sections of society, although it is a complex subject with influences of ethnicity, race, and family history.
"Overall, men and women with college degrees had lower obesity prevalence compared with those with less education."
"Among women, obesity prevalence was lower in the highest income group than in the middle and lowest income groups. This pattern was observed among non-Hispanic white, non-Hispanic Asian, and Hispanic women." - https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html
But this is getting off-topic.
Government is properly for people, and money is not a form of speech.