JohnRawls wrote:The problem of AOC is that she is Trump of the Democrats.
That's not her problem. That's why she's relevant. Her problem is that in spite of being quick, she's so propagandized that she often demonstrates a rather deterministic stupidity. Hopefully, as she matures and realizes her education was mostly an indoctrination, she will be able to be a more independent and intelligent voice.
JohnRawls wrote:Although both her and Trump do kinda get it to a degree compared to others in Washington so they got that going for them.
They are both superlative at calling out the establishment on their shit. AOC campaigned for impeachment, and when Pelosi finally caved, AOC said she was bored and over it--leaving Nancy twisting in the breeze with no evidence, no case, and a bunch of secret-not-so-secret meetings generating hearsay testimony to try to manufacture "bombshell" testimony that amounts to nothing, while Trump derails them on the other end by calling it a "lynching" and getting them all to freak out even though they had all said exactly the same thing about the Clinton impeachment. AOC and Trump are fantastic at making the establishment look like complete fools.
JohnRawls wrote:They work under more or less the same premises as much as I can tell. Yes, they come to different conclusions but they also use similar methods and similar style.
That's exactly it.
JohnRawls wrote:The new green deal is just a far larger version of the wall. At best they are just symbols which won't solve any problems.
The problem with the green new deal is that it is not financially feasible, and likely ineffective. The wall is financially feasible, but only marginally effective. AOC makes the establishment look chickenshit and unimaginative; Trump makes them look anti-democratic and intransigent. Either way, the establishment is getting its ass kicked, which is a good thing.
JohnRawls wrote:Taxes should rise but not on the middle class and especially not on salaries for the middle class and below.
The welfare state depends on growth. Raising taxes would kill growth by crushing aggregate demand when interest rates and inflation are already low.
Finfinder wrote:AOC is as dumb as a box of rocks.
She is, but it is a deterministic kind of stupid--which is to say she's passionately wrong, because she was misinformed by her professors.
"This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia – hysterical xenophobia – and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science."
-- Joe Biden on banning travel from China during the coronavirus outbreak