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By late
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Every year teams from various countries compete to see who is best at defending against Russian style cyber attacks.

That happens because a bunch of countries have developed new cyber programs after they were attacked by Russia.

Barr is investigating the CIA to see if they had grounds to investigate the Russia attack.

Barr knows what is required to justify a criminal investigation. When half the planet has been attacked by Russia, there are no rational grounds on which to justify that investigation. Two weeks ago a Republican report agreed with the intel agencies about the Russian attack.

This is just Trump looking for revenge. He has pushed dozens of people out of the FBI and Justice, to get what he wants, starting with Sally Yates at the beginning of his term (Mr President, your NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER, Micheal Flynn, is playing footsie with the Russians. You're fired. He fired her weeks before he fired Flynn). (Actually, she prob wasn't the first, Preet Bharara is likely to have been the first.)

Now he wants to cripple the CIA.

The thing of it is, this is batsh*t crazy. But it has been burning up the kookier parts of Right wing media. And Trump listens to that stuff, and the rest you can figure out on your on.

Nixon's AG went to jail. I expect a repeat.
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late wrote:Barr is investigating the CIA to see if they had grounds to investigate the Russia attack.

You're too late. They've already found criminal conduct. The issue is whether the CIA had grounds to spy on the Trump campaign or whether they directed the FBI to do the same. There weren't legitimate grounds to investigate Trump's campaign. Devin Nunes found that the Clinton campaign was the one that financed the Steele dossier by subpoenaing bank records.

late wrote:Barr knows what is required to justify a criminal investigation.

Yes. They did a formal administrative review first, which is why it took so long to get to giving Durham power for subpoenas, grand juries and indictments. They found probable cause to believe a crime was committed after their administrative review. They had good reason to do an administrative review, because of the IG reports on McCabe and Comey among others, as well as the Strzok and Page texts being made public.

late wrote:When half the planet has been attacked by Russia, there are no rational grounds on which to justify that investigation.

Again, you're too late. The investigation into Trump was kicked off by a lie and a phony dossier financed by the Hillary Clinton for President campaigned, laundered through the DNC, Perkins Coie and Fusion GPS to hide the money trail to Christopher Steele. Brennan briefed the gang of 8 US senators 3 months before he publicly said he had even been made aware of the dossier. He lied in public, and there is a record that he had briefed the gang of 8. Brennan also gave the information to the FBI. So did John McCain by the way. You're also forgetting that it's very likely that Bill Priestap--the FBI's head of counterintelligence--is a cooperating witness.

late wrote:Two weeks ago a Republican report agreed with the intel agencies about the Russian attack.

Nothing in the report suggested the Trump administration was involved in any attack by the Russians.

late wrote:This is just Trump looking for revenge.

Revenge for what? Do you mean revenge for Hillary and the DNC creating the Steele Dossier and having it submitted to the FBI as a pretext for spying on the Trump campaign, using it as a pretext for Comey to meet one on one with Trump to threaten him; for Senator Schumer warning Trump that the IC has six ways from Sunday to get back at you; for Schumer calling for Jeff Sessions to recuse himself and calling for a special counsel after Trump turned Mueller down for the role of FBI director, and then having Rod Rosenstein appoint Muller as a special counsel to investigate allegations for which there was no reasonable cause?

late wrote:He has pushed dozens of people out of the FBI and Justice, to get what he wants, starting with Sally Yates at the beginning of his term (Mr President, your NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER, Micheal Flynn, is playing footsie with the Russians.

Yates was insubordinate. There was nothing illegal or abnormal about Flynn speaking with Kislyak. What is unusual is for Comey to brag about sending Strzok over to the White House to subject Flynn to a criminal interview without telling Flynn that it was an official visit and he needed a lawyer present and when the FBI already had the full transcript of the call, because they had eavesdropped on it. Sidney Powell is now waging a collateral attack on the plea deal for prosecutorial misconduct. Deep state is going to get fucked finally.

late wrote:Now he wants to cripple the CIA.

So? He's president. The CIA is subordinate. He can upsize, downsize, reorganize, etc. or propose legislation to do the same if he wants to. There's nothing illegal about it.

late wrote:The thing of it is, this is batsh*t crazy.

Trying to overthrow the president of the United States was a batshit crazy idea, and they tried it anyway. They're still trying. In fact, the "whistleblower" complaining about foreign policy call (the CIA doesn't do foreign policy and the whistleblower wasn't on the call) was originally a CIA operative, who is now disappearing into the ether as it became clear that the CIA had coordinated the latest hit with Adam Schiff before the complaint was filed--making Adam Schiff a fact witness in his own investigation.

late wrote:Nixon's AG went to jail.

Nixon's AG committed a crime. Barr has not committed a crime.

late wrote:I expect a repeat.

I expect you are going to be deeply disappointed.
By late
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blackjack21 wrote:
You're too late.




If you can't blind us with your brilliance, you'll try and bury us in crap...

Speaking of which, Trump just lost big in court.

"A judge on Friday ordered the Justice Department to give the House secret grand jury testimony from special counsel Robert Mueller‘s Russia investigation...In a ruling that also affirmed the legality of the impeachment inquiry itself, U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell ordered the department to turn over the materials by Oct. 30."

"In a 75-page ruling accompanying the order, Howell slashed through many of the administration’s arguments for withholding materials from Congress, including that there was need for continued secrecy. "

Which is to say some of the crap that was being thrown around here just got composted.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
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late wrote:Speaking of which, Trump just lost big in court.

Withholding grand jury information in ongoing cases is standard practice. Congress asking for it during proceedings is abnormal. Perhaps enough time has elapsed that it no longer matters, but I rather doubt the Trump administration really cares other than keeping process clean. I certainly don't care. All of the relevant details have already been made public.
By late
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blackjack21 wrote:
Withholding grand jury information in ongoing cases is standard practice. Congress asking for it during proceedings is abnormal. Perhaps enough time has elapsed that it no longer matters, but I rather doubt the Trump administration really cares other than keeping process clean. I certainly don't care. All of the relevant details have already been made public.



The judge followed precedent. In the 1974 Watergate case, the courts ruled that Congress had the right to see grand jury information.

You babble.
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By jimjam
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late wrote:Barr is investigating the CIA to see if they had grounds to investigate the Russia attack.
late wrote:This is just Trump looking for revenge


Hey …………. looks like you got quote bombed by BJ#21 …….. a badge of honor ……. for sure.

Well, it's common knowledge that Barr is Donald's personal attorney and America effectively has no AG for awhile.

My sense is that, with the exception of the more rabid section of Donald's "base", the country is tiring of the endless stream of hatred, lies, stunts and nonsense being emitted from Donald and his propaganda apparatus. What's next? Mabey a few of our more vapid and worthless Republican congressmen will be ordered by their master to super glue themselves to the door of the room where impeachment hearings are being conducted.
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