B0ycey wrote:Thanks for clarity Rich, but your thread accused Giuffre of lying whilst claiming Prince Andrew of ignorance. This isn't about age but consent. In other words Rape. Is 17 an age that is appropriate for that?
Indeed I did. I don't believe she was a slave. Now note saying she wasn't a slave, isn't the same thing as saying her and Epstein had an admirable relationship. Its like when I defend young college lads, against kangaroo courts and Islam-feminism, it doesn't mean that I think the boozie drug culture is something to be encouraged.
So as far as I'm concerned any serious attempt to improve our culture around sex and reduce harm must start with the recognition that not everything that is undesirable or unhealthy should be illegal, and not everything that is illegal is equally bad.
I feel lucky that I grew up at a time when men were men, women were women and small round furry things from Alpha Centauri were small round furry things from Alpha Centauri. Back then we referred to attractive 15 year olds as jail-bait. That didn't mean any of my mates were paedophiles. Much later I worked with a young guy who I'd say really was a paedophile, so I think I can spot the difference. One is normal male heterosexuality, the other is abnormal, in the same way that in western culture pederasty is abnormal, although its a lot more common amongst homosexual men than Liberals want to admit.