Tainari88 wrote:Annatar, you have to realize and you know it as a man with experiences? Consequences are baked in to every important decision you make or don't make in this world. You can live in denial but the consequence is going to have to snap you out of it. The USA gov't is going to have consequences due to the low quality of leadership that they engage in.
New socio-economic orders are not built in a vaccuum, they experience failures, fits and starts, and are modified by human nature and all the other intangibles involved. I take some comfort in that maybe ironically, because all that we are fussing and fighting about now will be looked back at in incomprehension... Just as we look back at the ancient and medieval times with their slavery and serfdom.
Now, my point about that is this; we look back at history and see who we think the good leaders are and we divorce them to some extent from the political and socio-economic system they were a part of. We also tend to look at them more objectively the further back in time we are from them.
Chou En Lai if I remember correctly was asked once about what he thought of the French Revolution, to which he replied; ''it's too early to tell''.
I saw the hand of Divine Providence in human affairs in America twice for sure; in 2008 when Barack Obama beat Hillary Clinton, and in 2016 when Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton. Both men have shaped America in important ways, and are closer politically than the media and their own words would suggest; Barack Obama a ''political outsider'' from the Liberal end of the spectrum but who used Populist and Nationalist tropes, who was nonetheless groomed to an extent for the US Presidency, and Donald Trump, who was also a ''political outsider'' who uses Populist and Nationalist tropes and who was groomed to an extent for the US Presidency as well.
I look back, and there's not really much of a difference. The political system in place is far sturdier than media hysteria would have us believe.
But man is a fickle and disreputable creature and perhaps, like a chess-player, is interested in the process of attaining his goal rather than the goal itself.