Famous anarchists - Politics Forum.org | PoFo

Wandering the information superhighway, he came upon the last refuge of civilization, PoFo, the only forum on the internet ...

Any other minor ideologies.
Forum rules: No one line posts please.
#395204
Communists have picasso. Do anarchists have some famous people that are anarchists? I'm not thinking of people like famous punks, but like scientists, painters, famous white collars, for instance.
Just out of curiosity. :)
By Ixa
#395210
ComradeStrawberry wrote:Could you name a few?

Yes, I could.
Last edited by Ixa on 31 Jul 2004 15:16, edited 1 time in total.
By Ixa
#395212
ComradeStrawberry wrote:Name a few please :)

Chomsky, a famous linguist.
By AsdkAsd
#395222
many of the famous Anarchists were also "scientists, painters, famous white collars", or philosophers, teachers etc. Reclus was a great geographer, Proudhon apparently (although I didn't know this) was a painter, Kropotkin a scientist and contributed to evolutionary theory, Malatest an electrician -although thats probably not what you're looking for.

But if you want to take art;

"Anarchism had a large influence on French Symbolism of the late 19th century, such as that of Mallarme, who said "le livre c'est le bombe" (the book is the bomb) and infiltrated the cafes and cabarets of turn of the century Paris (see the Druken Boat #2).
More significantly, anarchists claim that 'strains' may be found in the works of the Dada group, whose anti-bourgeois art antics saw them wreaking havoc in war neutral Switzerland during World War I. However on closer analysis the Dadaists were much closer to the Council Communists, having much of their material published in Die Aktion.


Surrealism
Surrealism is both an artistic and political movement aimed at nothing less than the total liberation of the human being from the constraints of capitalism, the state, and the cultural forces that limit the reign of the imagination. The movement developed in France in the wake of WWI with Andre Breton as its main theorist and poet. Originally it was tied closely to the Communist Party. Later Breton, a close friend of Leon Trotsky broke with the Communist Party. Surrealism has a strong continued following today in places like Portland, Oregon, the Czech Republic, Minneapolis, Chicago, Australia, and Portugal."

I could give you more examples, but I cant be bothered ;)
By CCJ
#395279
Leo Tolstoy and J.R.R. Tolkein are both famous anarchists, though they are not well known for being anarchists, they are anarchists nonetheless.
By AsdkAsd
#395314
Tolkien??! :eek:
User avatar
By Childlike Complexion
#395615
Leo Tolstoy and J.R.R. Tolkein are both famous anarchists, though they are not well known for being anarchists, they are anarchists nonetheless.


Just what I need, thank you. :)
Famous but not well known for being anarchists. :)
Anyone else?
By Spin
#395619
Leo Tolstoy and J.R.R. Tolkein are both famous anarchists, though they are not well known for being anarchists, they are anarchists nonetheless.


Erm...proof?
By CCJ
#395704
Tolkien
Middle-earth: the real world of J. R. R. Tolkien - cultural mythology - Critical Essay wrote:Bearing in mind Tolkien's peaceful anarchist political stance ( Curry 48 ), the Ring solidifies his theory that absolute power corrupts. Whether the person wearing the Ring intends to use it for good or not, they are still advocating the suppression of others' rights in favor of their own.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... 48431/pg_3

J.R.R. Tolkien's Sanctifying Myth wrote:Tolkien once described himself as a philosophical anarchist.

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articl ... l0188.html

Tolstoy
flag.blackened wrote:Tolstoy also gave a strong plea for Christians to reject the State when seeking answers to questions of morality and instead to look within themselves and to God for their answers.

http://flag.blackened.net/daver/anarchism/tolstoy/

Prince Peter Kropotkin wrote:Without naming himself an anarchist, Leo Tolstoy, like his predecessors in the popular religious movements of the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries, Chojecki, Denk and many others, took the anarchist position as regards the state and property rights, deducing his conclusions from the general spirit of the teachings of Jesus Christ and from the necessary dictates of reason.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Tolstoy

Enough for you?
By Ixa
#395739
Counter-Corperate Jujitsu wrote:Tolkien
Middle-earth: the real world of J. R. R. Tolkien - cultural mythology - Critical Essay wrote:Bearing in mind Tolkien's peaceful anarchist political stance ( Curry 48 ), the Ring solidifies his theory that absolute power corrupts. Whether the person wearing the Ring intends to use it for good or not, they are still advocating the suppression of others' rights in favor of their own.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... 48431/pg_3

J.R.R. Tolkien's Sanctifying Myth wrote:Tolkien once described himself as a philosophical anarchist.

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articl ... l0188.html

Tolstoy
flag.blackened wrote:Tolstoy also gave a strong plea for Christians to reject the State when seeking answers to questions of morality and instead to look within themselves and to God for their answers.

http://flag.blackened.net/daver/anarchism/tolstoy/

Prince Peter Kropotkin wrote:Without naming himself an anarchist, Leo Tolstoy, like his predecessors in the popular religious movements of the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries, Chojecki, Denk and many others, took the anarchist position as regards the state and property rights, deducing his conclusions from the general spirit of the teachings of Jesus Christ and from the necessary dictates of reason.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Tolstoy

Enough for you?

He asked for proof. It is just being asserted that they were anarchists. But where is the proof?
By AsdkAsd
#395870
Tolstoy is acknowledged by most anarchists as a great figure in their history but I've never heard that Tolkien was.

In the essay you provided it says, "Tolkien once described himself as a philosophical anarchist. But he believed that true anarchy would ultimately result in a natural monarchy."...so was he an anarchist in principle?

Certainly I've always loved LoTR so I'd like him to be :D A good quote from him is;

"You can't fight the Enemy with his own Ring without
turning into an Enemy; but unfortunately Gandalf's wisdom
seems long ago to have passed with him into the True West. .
.. ."
User avatar
By utopian realist
#396393
He asked for proof. It is just being asserted that they were anarchists. But where is the proof?


the proof is not only when a person says "I am anarchist". :)
it's not about a name, but about the views. Not a label "anarchist" where person fits the definition by 100% (if there is such a possibility). It's rather about what a person proposes.

As to Tolstoi, read his Resurrection (Voskresenie) and you'll see almost pure anarchism there.

Why did nobody mention Friedriech Nietzsche? I think he is the most famous person holding anarchist views.

A state, is called the coldest of all cold monsters. Coldly lieth it
also; and this lie creepeth from its mouth: "I, the state, am the
people."
It is a lie! Creators were they who created peoples, and hung a
faith and a love over them: thus they served life.


http://www.eserver.org/philosophy/nietz ... hustra.txt


He was like an elitarian anarchist.

Open still remaineth a free life for great souls. Verily, he who
possesseth little is so much the less possessed: blessed be moderate
poverty!
There, where the state ceaseth- there only commenceth the man who is
not superfluous: there commenceth the song of the necessary ones,
the single and irreplaceable melody.


And here'd what might be called anarchism for the elite:

Free, dost thou call thyself? Thy ruling thought would I hear of,
and not that thou hast escaped from a yoke.
Art thou one entitled to escape from a yoke? Many a one hath cast
away his final worth when he hath cast away his servitude.
Free from what? What doth that matter to Zarathustra! Clearly,
however, shall thine eye show unto me: free for what?
Canst thou give unto thyself thy bad and thy good, and set up thy
will as a law over thee? Canst thou be judge for thyself, and
avenger of thy law?


Nietzsche is controversial, complicated, sophisticated, yet his views are anarchist.
By useless
#508864
Sartre, Camus (both noble prize winners), Max Stirner, Michel Foucault.
User avatar
By The Anarchist Tension
#508884
Sartre wasnt an anarchist.
User avatar
By Utopian_Anarchist
#508922
In the essay you provided it says, "Tolkien once described himself as a philosophical anarchist. But he believed that true anarchy would ultimately result in a natural monarchy."...so was he an anarchist in principle?


That's exactly how I feel. And I'm not an Anarchist. It's a good principle, but ultimately, until you can get current hegemony of the government and leadership, I don't think it will work.

Here's an interesting little quote. I think Tolkien was more of an 'party communist' :lol: . Just kidding.
"If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world." - J.R.R. Tolkien
By useless
#508945
Sartre, Camus and most of the French Structuralists (Lévy-Strauss, Althusser) and Existencialists started as communists.
Later Sartre, Camus, Foucault and Derrida turned to anarchy.

The May 1968 unions and anarchists started demonstrations and the gouvernment fled. De Gaulle sent his troops to invade Paris and communists did their best to discourage the demonstraters.
Sartre, Camus and all the others have not been on their side. There they broke with the communists.
User avatar
By The Anarchist Tension
#508995
Later Sartre...turned to anarchy.


I did not know that. Is there any writing of his about it?
Israel-Palestinian War 2023

Analysis on Abu Obeida's speech marking the 200th […]

Indictments have occured in Arizona over the fake[…]

Russia-Ukraine War 2022

Losing money is one thing, losing a whole brigade[…]

Iran is going to attack Israel

Wait a moment, I'll just quickly pick up the weapo[…]