Potemkin wrote:The public shaming of petty criminals is just part of that.
I'm going to start barking (like a dog...literally) at everyone that fucks up at work.

Wandering the information superhighway, he came upon the last refuge of civilization, PoFo, the only forum on the internet ...
Potemkin wrote:The public shaming of petty criminals is just part of that.
Rancid wrote:If this were a prison, you would be the first bitch here I'd fuck in the ass.
you know, to show you my sensitive and caring side.
Potemkin wrote:Indeed, and the flipside of that freedom and opportunity is the looseness of central control and a certain rough-and-ready attitude towards personal safety and law and order, which is sometimes indistinguishable from vigilante 'justice'. The public shaming of petty criminals is just part of that.
Pants-of-dog wrote:right-to-be-forgotten
ness31 wrote:I don’t think you even find that mug shot funny Big Steve.
There is a valid discussion surrounding the morality of that mugshot. It’s a shame the Sherrif in that American county can’t see that. They should be having this discussion...
Rancid wrote:This is such an important thing. It goes beyond people that have committed petty crime as well.
BigSteve wrote:How is it immoral to show that photo?
Tainari88 wrote:Public shaming practices only work if the person has a bit of shame to begin with. Trump types don't care. They can be shamed and confronted, but since they are bald faced shameless types? Only some kind of confiscation of all money and property is a big blow to them. Poverty and not being able to do a damn thing is what they deserve.
Finfinder wrote:Interesting,.... is the point, virtue comes with a voter registration card reading Democrat? With at least 2 fake investigations , a shit show Supreme Court and other nomination processes, lead by the liberal gaslight media, they must not have read the registration form.![]()
Tainari88 wrote:No, Fin, I think they don't have a moral leg to stand on either. Both parties stink badly. Thus the need people have to get rid of both sides.
People clinging to some kind of hope that they can get past the corruption. You can't--too many years of letting them take control. That crap needs to be nipped in the bud from the beginning. But, people grow complacent and let things slide for decades. They don't really take politics seriously. They should. It affects most people's lives for the good or for the bad. You don't pay attention the power vacuum is filled for you.
But? Thems the breaks.
You might think the Republicans are going to survive and thrive. They won't. Obama was elected for two terms because there are a lot of superificial bubblehead liberals who think a Black man is enough to mollify people with real concerns about the system. They believe in superficial forms of political correctness that no one believes anymore.
You believe in the system Fin. I never did.
Different life experiences hombre. Most individual's politics is about their own formation and social and economic backgrounds. It is true that few commit class suicide. Most people are just products of those who raise them.
Potemkin wrote:This sort of thing probably ultimately derives from the 'frontier justice' of the American West in the 19th century. It wasn't unusual for miscreants to be tarred and feathered or ridden out of town on a rail, with little or no 'due process'. American society was a bit rough around the edges back then, and to some extent it still is. Civilisation never really arrived to some areas of the US....
Rich wrote:I don't follow what's uncivilised about this. American justice seems pretty soft compared to most civilisations over the last six thousand years. In particular I believe some historians argue that the justice system under Stalin had some rough edges. Mao certainly wasn't averse to a bit of shaming and even Pol Pot's justice system had an authoritarian undertone.
Pants-of-dog wrote:People literally make money by showing the photo, and the reason they do is people want to laugh at this person’s misery.
It also blurs the distinction between a person arrested, a person charged with a crime, and a person convicted of a crime. It basically finds them guilty in the court of public opinion before they are found guilty in a court of law.
Companies then archive these photos for display on the internet and then charge people money to have them removed, even if the person was never charged with a crime.
Police can unlawfully use these to harass or shame people for personal reasons.
It can be a significant invasion of privacy for the rest of the person’s life.
Pants-of-dog wrote:People literally make money by showing the photo, and the reason they do is people want to laugh at this person’s misery.
It also blurs the distinction between a person arrested, a person charged with a crime, and a person convicted of a crime. It basically finds them guilty in the court of public opinion before they are found guilty in a court of law.
Companies then archive these photos for display on the internet and then charge people money to have them removed, even if the person was never charged with a crime.
Police can unlawfully use these to harass or shame people for personal reasons.
It can be a significant invasion of privacy for the rest of the person’s life.
How is it immoral to show that photo?
Potemkin wrote:Indeed, but what all these societies had in common was a shared economic and cultural backwardness, and the fact that all of these societies were predominately rural in nature. I would propose that it was these primitive characteristics in Russia, China, Cambodia et al., which I characterised as an absence of 'civilisation', which led to their rather rough-and-ready approach to 'justice'.
ness31 wrote:*shrug* it just lacks basic human decency in my opinion and doesn’t serve any purpose. But each to their own I suppose
Finfinder wrote:Actually I can't find anything in your post I disagree with. Im registered Independent I would describe myself of more of a constitutionalists and moderate. I have been saying for a long time after 16 years of milk toast Bush and Obama I'm done with Republicans. I'm done with politicians going in poor and coming out rich. Honestly I want something that is fair and not rigged if a Dem wins fine I just want it to be fair and square.
You'd probably be surprised that I'm not a giant fan of Trumps personality although after 8 years of Obama and the Republicans doing nothing about being turned into door mats over things like the IRS scandal, bengahzi, fast and furious, the Clinton Foundation and so much more. I think Trump is the perfect personality and refreshing for those of us who are sick and tired of do nothing congress enriching themselves . Trump says in open what others say behind closed doors he just has political courage not seen in a long time. I think unelected partisan bureaucrats are finally getting the criticism they deserve and that part of the swamp needs to be drained. In the end I can easily justify my vote by the judges that are being appointed that is all I can have faith in.
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