Puffer Fish wrote:It's not exactly sexual abuse in the same sense with any other form of sexual abuse.
Yes, it is. It's sex without consent. That's why it's illegal.
Puffer Fish wrote:The woman has already had (consensual) sex hundreds of times with that man, what's one more time?
Rape is actually a breach of the marriage contract.
Puffer Fish wrote:Sex between husband and wife is perfectly natural. This isn't really anything unusual, or maybe it is better to say too unusual.
Yes, and it's consensual. When it's not, then it becomes illegal. I know you are smart enough to tell the two apart.
Puffer Fish wrote:And is this really "abuse"? If he just had sex with his wife when she said no and wasn't really feeling like it, is that really abuse in the sense of a woman being raped? (You know, raped by a man who's not her husband, or whom she hasn't been having sex with over a long period of time)
If you are sexually assaulted, against your will, then it is rape. Period. If it happened to you, you'd identify it as such, too. You're trying to excuse sexual assualt, and that's fucked up.
Puffer Fish wrote:I agree this can fall under the category of marital abuse, but in a way it is not really like what people normally think of as sexual abuse. It's not like she is being made to have sex with a strange man who hasn't already had sex with her (which is the biggest and most important component of any incident of sexual abuse).
It DOES fall under the category of marital abuse AND sexual assault, even if your misogyny tells you otherwise. Everyone knows that sex, without consent is sexual assault, except for you, apparently...
You're wrong about it being worse with a stranger. Many people are sexually assaulted by friends, "loved ones", and people they know. What makes it the same, is that it's also betrayal of trust.
Marital rape should be treated
more severely as it is also breaking marriage vows.
Puffer Fish wrote:If he's abusing her, to a level where she can't stand it, she needs to get an immediate legal separation.
Yes, and charge him with sexual assault.
Puffer Fish wrote:If she wants government to intervene, she's going to have to show signs of severe injuries.
Fuck you. Why does she have to prove injury just to make assholes like you happy? Rape is rape, even if he did not injure her, physically. Many sexual assaults do not create injuries. That does not mean there is no harm done. Are you trolling just to be an asshole, or are you being serious, here?
Puffer Fish wrote:If the woman wants to get government to punish her husband for having normal and ordinary sex with her, she should be required to do something before the fact. To change the legal status, making it no longer an ordinary marriage.
Sexual assault is not normal and ordinary sex. Normal sex includes CONSENT.
Any marriage where sexual assault occurs in, should be annulled, if the victim wants it.
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