Professors Glenn Loury & John McWhorter talk about cops and race - Politics Forum.org | PoFo

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Is crime a moral failing? 10:50
Glenn: “Black people in poor cities need the cops” 17:59
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Glenn decries Biden’s racial pandering 56:57
John: The problem is with cops and with guns, not racism 1:01:48

- Glenn Loury (Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, Brown University) and John McWhorter (Columbia University, Lexicon Valley, The Atlantic)

- Glenn Cartman Loury is an American economist, academic, and author. In 1982, at age 33, he became the first black tenured professor of economics in the history of Harvard University. He is the Merton P. Stoltz Professor of the Social Sciences and Professor of Economics at Brown University.

John Hamilton McWhorter is an American academic and associate professor of English and comparative literature at Columbia University, where he teaches linguistics, American studies, philosophy, and music history

Recorded May 28, 2020


Both object to the notion that race is the only factor in police interactions with blacks. Loury in addition mentions that poverty and racism alone are cheap excuses for black people coming into contact with police, especially considering the sheer number of crimes committed by black people. At some point moral failings come into the equation and this can't simply be ignored. He mentions one of the underlying reasons for the high crime rates: fatherless families. Both end up decrying identity politics in the Democratic party and explicitly mention Stacy Abrams as an absurdity of this ideological movement. As if losing an election and being black would somehow make her eligible as vice president.

At one point both wonder if there were similar cases like George Floyd. They were unaware that there were indeed two recent similar cases, one involving a white man and another of a black man. Both incidents were also (I believe) captured on video. The difference in media attention can presumably be explained by race and timing. There is after all an election coming up.

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