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Under the Guise of Public Safety, China Demolishes Thousands of Mosques

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A map showing the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region and the location of Kashgar.

The Chinese government has destroyed thousands of mosques over the past three months in the restive Xinjiang region in Beijing’s latest attempt to “rectify” the largely Muslim population there, RFA’s Uyghur Service has learned.

Under the “Mosque Rectification” campaign launched by the Chinese Central Ethnic-Religious Affairs Department and overseen by the local police, the mosques were demolished as a way to sort out dilapidated buildings that allegedly posed a safety threat for worshippers in the Uyghur Autonomous Region, officials told RFA.

“Convincing the people that one of the purposes for demolishing the mosques was for the safety of the worshipers was a bit difficult,” said Eysajan Yaqup, a police officer in Toqquzaq township. “Some of them laughed at us when we explained the purpose, and some of them stared at us to show their disagreement.”

Eysajan Yaqup said he and other officials ignored the laughter and the stares and “most of the prayers were silenced.”

“We successfully completed our duty within three months,” he said.

China estimates that it is home to 23 million Muslims, although some independent sources claim as many as 50 million Muslims live in the country.

Beijing blames Uyghur extremists for a string of violent attacks and clashes in recent years. But critics say the government has exaggerated the threat from the Uyghurs, and that repressive domestic policies are responsible for violence that has left hundreds dead since 2009.

China has vowed to crack down on what it calls religious extremism in Xinjiang, and regularly conducts "strike hard” campaigns that include random, nighttime police raids on Uyghur households, restrictions on Islamic practices, and curbs on the culture and language of the Uyghur people, including clothing and personal appearance.

The government also employs an army of religious affairs officials whose job it is to impose strict limits on all forms of religious worship, and to crack down on faith-based activities that haven't submitted to government regulation.

‘We demolished nearly 70 percent of mosques in the city.’

Officials in Kashgar (in Chinese, Kashi) confirmed that a rectification campaign had been carried out in the city, saying that most of mosques in Kashgar were demolished for the purpose of ensuring stability and protecting the safety of the Muslims.

While government officials refused to say how many mosques were demolished, an investigation by RFA’s Uyghur Service indicated that around 5,000 mosques were destroyed over the three months of the campaign.

RFA listener Abduraxman Abdurehim, a Uyghur refugee living in Turkey, said villagers from his home town told him that that 70 percent of the mosques in Lenger township were demolished in the campaign

His account was backed up by local officials and villagers in Kashgar, Hotan (in Chinese, Hetian) and Asku (in Chinese, Akesu).

While other listeners told RFA the rectification campaign encompassed the entire region, RFA was only able to independently confirm the destruction of mosques in those three areas.

Wang Jingfu, head of Ethnic and Religious Affairs Committee in Kashgar City, told RFA that the government was acting out of safety concerns because many of the mosques were antiquated.

“We launched the rectification campaign with the purpose of protecting the safety of the worshippers because all the mosques were too old,” he said. “We demolished nearly 70 percent of mosques in the city, because there were more than enough mosques and some were unnecessary.”

‘It’s all just a slogan’

Hajim Yusup, the deputy police chief in Toqquzaq county’s Mush township said 46 of the 65 mosques in his town were demolished.

“The demolition was carried out and organized by the Ethnic and Religious Committee of the county, we just watched in case there was any opposition,” he said. “Fortunately, almost nothing happened in our township during the campaign.”

The deputy committee chief, who said his name is Ghulamidin, told RFA that government officials explained to religious leaders and residents why the mosques needed to be destroyed.

“Before we launched the campaign, we went to villages in the city and conducted a conversation with religious figures and residents to patiently explain the importance of the rectification campaign,” he said. “The residents agreed to the order issued by central government, I believe we did nothing wrong in this campaign.”

The residents may have agreed, but they weren’t fooled by the reason behind the campaign.

“Rectifying or standardizing, it’s all just a slogan,” said the teacher who spoke on condition of anonymity. “The truth is it is a demolishing.”

To the teacher the rectification campaign is all part of Beijing’s attempts to subjugate the Uyghur population.

“It is part of the campaign to eliminate so-called religious extremism,” the teacher said. “First the authorities jailed all the young men who could oppose such a policy with the strike-hard campaign that started May 2014, then the authorities implemented new rules to punish rumor spreaders and now this campaign to demolish mosques.”

http://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/ ... 40127.html

Is China showing us how to combat Islamic extremism?
#14754904
That is the left for you. Brutally oppressing backwards right wing religions, the Chinese are keeping up the old Soviet tradition of Mosque destruction. In the right wing liberal capitalist west however Mosques pop up like mushrooms, more every single year.
#14754932
Way to go, China! Please come over here and help us out, too!

No doubt they'd be happy to help you out, Frollein, so long as you admit that whole 1989 thing was a huge mistake and acknowledge the inner truth and beauty of Marxism-Leninism once again. Saint Marx is patient and compassionate towards his wayward children. Return to his loving embrace, and he will repel the Musselman hordes. :angel:
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Beijing blames Uyghur extremists for a string of violent attacks and clashes in recent years. But critics say the government has exaggerated the threat from the Uyghurs, and that repressive domestic policies are responsible for violence that has left hundreds dead since 2009.

China has vowed to crack down on what it calls religious extremism in Xinjiang, and regularly conducts "strike hard” campaigns that include random, nighttime police raids on Uyghur households, restrictions on Islamic practices, and curbs on the culture and language of the Uyghur people, including clothing and personal appearance.


The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region is as oppressed as Tibet and religious freedom is under threat. The Uyghurs are the descendants of the Scythians who settled in Western China and they are ethnically half Caucasian, which also causes racial tensions with Han Chinese who are determined to integrate the Uyghurs by violent means.

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ThirdTerm wrote:The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region is as oppressed as Tibet and religious freedom is under threat. The Uyghurs are the descendants of the Scythians who settled in Western China and they are ethnically half Caucasian, which also causes racial tensions with Han Chinese who are determined to integrate the Uyghurs by violent means.

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I wouldn't generalize about Han Chinese, there's quite a few of them out there and they do not all have a history of getting along with each other, much less wanting to integrate with others, much less wanting to integrate by "violent means".
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I'm a bit conflicted on this one, regular forumites will know I'm not totally uncritical of Islam, but on this one I think I have to go with the Kazakstani freedom fighters against the Han genociders. Backing Maoist China against the Soviet Union, was questionable at best. Attacking Russia now is just plain evil. We should seek alliance with Putin against both Islam and the Han racist imperialists.
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ThirdTerm wrote:The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region is as oppressed as Tibet and religious freedom is under threat. The Uyghurs are the descendants of the Scythians who settled in Western China and they are ethnically half Caucasian, which also causes racial tensions with Han Chinese who are determined to integrate the Uyghurs by violent means.

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I thought they were a Turkish speaking group. There are Indo-European ethnic groups in the area, wouldn't those be the Scythian?

I think the Chinese Communist Party is just going to run into trouble with policies like these. The resentment can only grow.

The Chinese are already running into terrorist problems in Central Asia, whet they are trying to build their new Silk Road. ISIS/Taliban forces are gradually infiltrating the region. Once the West abandons Afghanistan, it will be on for young and old.
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benpenguin wrote:Lol everytime the Sinophobics try to attack China on the Muslim human rights angle we just get more admiration. Try again :lol:


Anyone who rejects the CCP's nationalistic and revanchist agenda is to be discredited as Sinophobic? I take you do support the CCP, right.


Anyway, so much for Chinese soft power. As with any imperial power, the oppressed strike back.

Do you suppose it might be symbolic that he used a Japanese car?
:lol:
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I am a critical supporter of CCP, foxdemon, but I do not deny many of their flaws. I would rate CCP a "net positive". You may look at some of my past posts at this same forum if you want to understand my position, which I find a little difficult to explain in one big slogan.
There are a couple posters that basically barks every time the word "China" shows up, I am referring to them :lol:
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benpenguin wrote:I am a critical supporter of CCP, foxdemon, but I do not deny many of their flaws. I would rate CCP a "net positive". You may look at some of my past posts at this same forum if you want to understand my position, which I find a little difficult to explain in one big slogan.
There are a couple posters that basically attacks China every time the word "China" shows up, I am referring to them - I probably shouldn't have said it because these fine gentlemen are not here in this thread, but I just couldn't resist. :lol:

I have US first policy. China is a means to an end, that being said as long as they don't destroy any historical landmarks of the muslim minority, whatever. Plus, fuck Deng the revisionist his Chinese NCP has gone long enough, go back to Mao now.
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Tewodros III wrote:I have US first policy. China is a means to an end, that being said as long as they don't destroy any historical landmarks of the muslim minority, whatever. Plus, fuck Deng the revisionist his Chinese NCP has gone long enough, go back to Mao now.
Same here, just replace US with China. I am curious, why do you hate Deng so much more than Mao though? For starters, Deng don't hate US as Mao does?
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Tewodros III wrote:I have US first policy. China is a means to an end, that being said as long as they don't destroy any historical landmarks of the muslim minority, whatever. Plus, fuck Deng the revisionist his Chinese NCP has gone long enough, go back to Mao now.


Fuck Deng AND Fuck Mao....

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KMT Forever!
#14755623
benpenguin wrote:Same here, just replace US with China. I am curious, why do you hate Deng so much more than Mao though? For starters, Deng don't hate US as Mao does?

Because, I believe he was part of the opportunist rightist group of the party. I understood the need of developing state capitalism as it's necessary to transition into socialism, but I don't think he and the party today care about establishing socialism, you don't even have free healthcare. I think the party is the new KMT of the 30s just more competent. As for Mao I didn't like how he would rather use USA as leverage against USSR and the Cultural Revolution to save face after his failed Great Leap Forward. But I still take him over Deng. Both were at fault, Mao for not following the NEP of Lenin, which is why Stalin favor the KMT and Deng for making it a crude permanent policy, instead of using it to transition to Stalin Five Year Plans. Also when I mean US first, I mean a term as the Allies used against Germany when they were trying to destroy it: "Germany first" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_first
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