- 25 Apr 2021 17:26
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Short answer: You haven't been paying attention all these years.
Longer Answer:
I would say it started kicking up during the Obama admin, but really got ramped up during Trump (obviously his racist rhetoric wasn't good, but it did kick up the issue more into the spot light). I clearly remember 15-ish years ago all sorts of experts warning about China (and calling out Huawei in particular). Especially around the tech field with all the IP theft and what not. As well as the tech getting funneled into military and government control applications. As well as the exploitation of the general openness of western research institutions. The CCP has mostly taken advantage of all of this and bided their time as well. One of the previous CCP leaders said something to the effect of "Let's get rich first, then we take over". Which was a smart move on their part. That said, more recently they have started ramping their aggression, they have stopped biding their time. I've made the argument that they have shown their cards too soon, but that's good for us. The world is seeing what they are doing, and no amount of propaganda is going to help gloss over it. This is another reason this is more prominent now. They have started making more moves now than ever before. CCP has been walking a really high tightrope. Thus far, they have done it very very well. However, eventually (hopefully) they will fall off the tight rope. They will have some hard decisions to make about their government and their role in the world. Especially if they become the new boogeyman. Their current path is unsustainable in my opinion.
This is not something recent, it's only recently hit the mainstream news and consciousness, but it was always bubbling. People understood this problem very well 20 years ago (even going back to 1989 which was a critical seismic shift where the CCP committed to its current path). I think people did a wait and see approach because the hope was that as China's economy become stronger, they would integrate more into the global capitalist system and loosen up, much like what happened to Vietnam. However, that never happened.
Capitalism, does not solve all. That is the critical fallacy the west believes. However, that's for another thread.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Why dod China become the big bad enemy recently?
A year ago, no one was discussing China, now we have a whole series of threads about China.
Has something happened?
Short answer: You haven't been paying attention all these years.
Longer Answer:
I would say it started kicking up during the Obama admin, but really got ramped up during Trump (obviously his racist rhetoric wasn't good, but it did kick up the issue more into the spot light). I clearly remember 15-ish years ago all sorts of experts warning about China (and calling out Huawei in particular). Especially around the tech field with all the IP theft and what not. As well as the tech getting funneled into military and government control applications. As well as the exploitation of the general openness of western research institutions. The CCP has mostly taken advantage of all of this and bided their time as well. One of the previous CCP leaders said something to the effect of "Let's get rich first, then we take over". Which was a smart move on their part. That said, more recently they have started ramping their aggression, they have stopped biding their time. I've made the argument that they have shown their cards too soon, but that's good for us. The world is seeing what they are doing, and no amount of propaganda is going to help gloss over it. This is another reason this is more prominent now. They have started making more moves now than ever before. CCP has been walking a really high tightrope. Thus far, they have done it very very well. However, eventually (hopefully) they will fall off the tight rope. They will have some hard decisions to make about their government and their role in the world. Especially if they become the new boogeyman. Their current path is unsustainable in my opinion.
This is not something recent, it's only recently hit the mainstream news and consciousness, but it was always bubbling. People understood this problem very well 20 years ago (even going back to 1989 which was a critical seismic shift where the CCP committed to its current path). I think people did a wait and see approach because the hope was that as China's economy become stronger, they would integrate more into the global capitalist system and loosen up, much like what happened to Vietnam. However, that never happened.
Capitalism, does not solve all. That is the critical fallacy the west believes. However, that's for another thread.
I can think of 11780 reasons Trump shouldn't be president ever again.