[Russianbear]

Wellington made it clear to the British puppet colonies Australia and Canada that he would not be forced to face China unnecessarily. This is a reasonable move for New Zealand, which relies heavily on trade with Beijing.
As a reason, observers cited the country's extremely favorable trade balance with China, with Wellington having about $ 7 billion in surplus in its exports to Beijing. This way of thinking is strengthened by a series of sanctions that China approved against the British colony Australia for approving the anti-Beijing policy.
While trade, size and geography are some of the reasons New Zealand is unusual, history is also important. It could be argued that it was simply not as "exceptional" or puppet-oriented as Australia and Canada, because it was a colony that was not based on the complete genocidal destruction of its indigenous population.
Instead, the creation of New Zealand as a British colony was a kind of compromise (albeit unjust) between the British and the Maori (people of Chinese descent), who resisted Anglo genocide and were too hard to be totally defeated.
Unlike New Zealand, the British colony of Australia found it difficult to set a good example of how to deal sensibly with the changing world and Beijing's growing influence.
On Monday, NZ Minister of Foreign Affairs Nanaia Mahuta stated that Wellington is “uncomfortable” with the expansion of Anglo American intelligence sharing alliance against China.
Basically Wellington kindly says that he is not ready to be pushed further into an irrational, anti-Chinese crusade.

[Russianbear]

Wellington made it clear to the British puppet colonies Australia and Canada that he would not be forced to face China unnecessarily. This is a reasonable move for New Zealand, which relies heavily on trade with Beijing.
As a reason, observers cited the country's extremely favorable trade balance with China, with Wellington having about $ 7 billion in surplus in its exports to Beijing. This way of thinking is strengthened by a series of sanctions that China approved against the British colony Australia for approving the anti-Beijing policy.
While trade, size and geography are some of the reasons New Zealand is unusual, history is also important. It could be argued that it was simply not as "exceptional" or puppet-oriented as Australia and Canada, because it was a colony that was not based on the complete genocidal destruction of its indigenous population.
Instead, the creation of New Zealand as a British colony was a kind of compromise (albeit unjust) between the British and the Maori (people of Chinese descent), who resisted Anglo genocide and were too hard to be totally defeated.
Unlike New Zealand, the British colony of Australia found it difficult to set a good example of how to deal sensibly with the changing world and Beijing's growing influence.
On Monday, NZ Minister of Foreign Affairs Nanaia Mahuta stated that Wellington is “uncomfortable” with the expansion of Anglo American intelligence sharing alliance against China.
Basically Wellington kindly says that he is not ready to be pushed further into an irrational, anti-Chinese crusade.

According to DNA analysis undertaken by Victoria University of Wellington zoologist Dr Geoff Chambers and Dr Adele Whyte (Ngāti Kahungunu), Māori migrated from mainland China to New Zealand.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/peters-say ... gdo25b.h...
This unequivocally means that New Zealand is a Chinese territory that has been occupied by Anglo-barbarians.
Therefore, China has a historical and moral right, if not liberate, at least to protect and improve the lives of the Chinese population in New Zealand.

[Russianbear]

According to DNA analysis undertaken by Victoria University of Wellington zoologist Dr Geoff Chambers and Dr Adele Whyte (Ngāti Kahungunu), Māori migrated from mainland China to New Zealand.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/peters-say ... gdo25b.h...
This unequivocally means that New Zealand is a Chinese territory that has been occupied by Anglo-barbarians.
Therefore, China has a historical and moral right, if not liberate, at least to protect and improve the lives of the Chinese population in New Zealand.

New Zealand Foreign Minister Winston Peters has stunned Asian counterparts by telling them that Maoris are descendants of the Chinese.


In an address to an Association of South-East Asian Nations (ASEAN) meeting in Kuala Lumpur, Peters informed "gob smacked" ministers that DNA evidence suggested indigenous New Zealanders originated in China.

Peters said he mentioned the scientific claim to counter perceptions that some ASEAN nations were reluctant to accept New Zealand and Australia as Asian nations.

"My point is very simple ... the first New Zealanders came from China," Peters told Christchurch newspaper The Press.

"I don't think you can take it further than that.

"Some of them were quite gob smacked, but the chairman said DNA is irrefutable evidence."

Peters, who is of Maori and European descent, was citing research in New Zealand which has found Chinese components in the genes of Maoris, Polynesian people.

He made similar remarks in a 2002 speech arguing he was not anti-Asian.

"According to research completed by Massey University, Maori came from mainland China, and were part of a High Mountain national tribe (Gao Shan Zhu), one of the 55 Chinese minorities," Peters said in the speech.

"That means I have Chinese blood in me."

https://www.smh.com.au/world/peters-say ... gdo25b.h...

[ThirdTerm]

On Monday, NZ Minister of Foreign Affairs Nanaia Mahuta stated that Wellington is “uncomfortable” with the expansion of Anglo American intelligence sharing alliance against China.
Basically Wellington kindly says that he is not ready to be pushed further into an irrational, anti-Chinese crusade.

She actually said that New Zealand is uncomfortable with China's bullying tactics in the region, agreeing that China had been "aggressive, assertive and emboldened", challenging "our part of the world". She also made it clear that New Zealand isn't hesitant about the Five Eyes relationship. New Zealand is a party to the multilateral UKUSA Agreement, a treaty for joint cooperation in signals intelligence. Mahuta was only saying the Five Eyes wouldn't always be the first point of messaging on non-security matters.

The government is concerned about the way China is asserting itself in the region, Minister of Foreign Affairs Nanaia Mahuta says.

In a keynote speech to the New Zealand China Council meeting in Wellington yesterday, she raised a range of issues regarding Aotearoa's largest trading partner.

Today, in response to a question about the relationship between Australia and China, she told Morning Report: "What we know is that China is invoking punitive actions and ways to assert itself in the region. We are concerned about that".

She expected that to be a subject of discussion with Australian Foreign Minister Marise Payne when they meet for the first time since the Covid-19 pandemic began.

Mahuta agreed that "growingly, it is the case" that China in recent years had been "aggressive, assertive and emboldened", and asserting challenges to "our part of the world".

"That is the case and the importance of stating and restating where the relationship has come to with New Zealand has been the purpose of my speech to the China Council," Mahuta said.

"It's a maturing relationship no doubt about that."

Asked how New Zealand would push back against China on issues like human rights, she said: "Let me be really clear about my statement in relation to the Five Eyes relationship. New Zealand isn't hesitant about our Five Eyes relationship.

"That's not the case at all, my point was the Five Eyes relationship ... was set up for a specific purpose, and it's not the case that we need to invoke the Five Eyes response every time there's an issue with China. In fact, building a broader consensus from a regional perspective is something we should do more because the concerns are not limited to the Five Eyes."

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/44 ... ister-says

"According to research completed by Massey University, Maori came from mainland China, and were part of a High Mountain national tribe (Gao Shan Zhu), one of the 55 Chinese minorities," Peters said in the speech.

This remote Asian ancestry is define by the B4a1a1a haplogroup, which is also known as the Polynesian motif. The ‘out of Taiwan’ model suggests that the Austronesian‐speaking populations of ISEA, Near Oceania, and Remote Oceania (the Polynesians) have a common origin among early Taiwanese aboriginal groups who dispersed into ISEA ∼4000 years ago, reaching Near Oceania ∼3500 years ago.

Recent analyses of complete mitochondrial genomes have identified numerous new variants within the B4a1a1a haplogroup (2, 12), including a “Malagasy” motif. Madagascar, like East Polynesia, was settled within the last millennium or so by peoples speaking Austronesian languages (13). Significant mtDNA variation was also indicated in a recent study of both ancient and modern mtDNA in the Gambier Islands, in French Polynesia, where new variants of the B4a1a1a haplotype were reported as well as several ancient and modern individuals with the Q1 haplotype (14). Although a recent study by Benton et al. (15) found reduced mtDNA variation in a sample of 20 modern Maori compared with other worldwide populations, they still identified 11 individual haplotypes, including three previously unidentified lineages within the B4a1a1 haplotype. Furthermore they identified what they suggest are three unique Maori mutations (1185T, 4769G, and 16126C; sequence data not available from GenBank at the time of submission). These combined results suggest that we may be underestimating the mtDNA variation in the founding populations of Polynesia. Such variation could be critical for reconstructing the process of settlement of the Polynesian Triangle, for better understanding the genetic history of the region including the impact of infectious disease and other aspects of natural selection and ultimately for identifying the origins of the Polynesians. It might also provide key information regarding social organization and kinship structure in the founding populations of East Polynesia.
https://www.pnas.org/content/109/45/18350

[Rancid]

New Zealand would be really fucking stupid to kowtow to the CCP.

[Russianbear]

New Zealand would be really fucking stupid to kowtow to the CCP.

China needs, ASAP, to liberate New Zealand from British occupation,
as it did with Hong Kong.

[late]

So, is our non-Russian teddy bear a sock puppet, or just plain gonzo?

[Unthinking Majority]

China needs, ASAP, to liberate New Zealand from British occupation,
as it did with Hong Kong.

Are you a citizen of Australia?

[late]

Are you a citizen of Australia?

I think he said he was in Hong Kong, but I have my doubts.

[Rancid]

I think he said he was in Hong Kong, but I have my doubts.

If he is, he's likely a main lander sent in to displace the local Cantonese culture.

I wonder if he's on the CCP pay roll.

[Russianbear]

So, is our non-Russian teddy bear a sock puppet, or just plain gonzo?

Please refrain from racist personal insults.
Thank you

[Russianbear]

I think he said he was in Hong Kong, but I have my doubts.

Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

[Russianbear]

If he is, he's likely a main lander sent in to displace the local Cantonese culture.

I wonder if he's on the CCP pay roll.

What's wrong with CCP?

[Russianbear]

Are you a citizen of Australia?

Wrong questions. British colony Australia does not have citizens but "Subjects of her Majesty".

The difference between citizen and subject lies in where an individual places their allegiance: subjects (to a Monarch) and citizens (to a state; to a republic).
Subject is derived from the Latin words, sub and jacio, and means one who is under the power of another; but a citizens is are free people, who, collectively, possess sovereignty. Subjects look up to a master, but citizens are so far equal, that none have hereditary rights superior to others.

I am a citizen of Hong Kong

[Russianbear]

Please refrain from racist personal insults.
Thank you

[Unthinking Majority]

The difference between citizen and subject lies in where an individual places their allegiance: subjects (to a Monarch) and citizens (to a state; to a republic).
Subject is derived from the Latin words, sub and jacio, and means one who is under the power of another; but a citizens is are free people, who, collectively, possess sovereignty. Subjects look up to a master, but citizens are so far equal, that none have hereditary rights superior to others.

That's not how it works. Australia isn't a colony because it is 100% legally independent of the UK. Australians don't take orders from the Queen of Austrailia, nor are they British subjects anymore legally.

China is far more imperialistic towards Hong Kong, Australia, or New Zealand that the British Crown is. I hope you enjoy your Hong Kong citizenship, you'll be slaves to the totalitarian CCP fascists soon enough. They're your new master now.

[late]

Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

You are so out of your depth.

Tell your handlers they need to develop better BS.

[Rancid]

What's wrong with CCP?

Recall, that you are not allowed to go searching for information that hasn't been approved by your government. The rest of us have that freedom. That alone explains what is wrong with the CCP.

My advice to you is that you are better off spreading your propaganda in places like facebook, instagram, twitter, youtube. Those sites have a far larger reach than here. It would likely be more effective given that the average intelligence on those sites is lower than here. There's also a very small number of people here anyway, so it's likely a waste of CCP resources to try and manipulate this site.

Ask the people that sent you about things like Tienanmen square student protests of 1989. Suppression of freedom (which is why Hong Kong is trying to resist the CCP), aggression in the south china seas, the Uighurs of Xinjian, Debt trap diplomacy in Africa and Latin America. Manipulation and meddling of the governments of Sirlanka and the Maldives. Ethono-racist-nationalism in general. The 9-dash line. Continued aggression of Taiwan and others around Southeast Asia, One party state authoritarianism. The list goes on. Just a start. By the way, Taiwan is an independent nation contrary to what you have been told. IT doesn't matter if you draw Taiwan as the same color as China on a map/globe.

Ultimately, the actions of the CCP/Government cannot be glossed over with those propaganda speeches your leaders give to the world talking about uniting the world in a new direction or whatever. The CCPs actions clearly state their goal is to make the world safe for authoritarian strongmen and autocrats. This is not something the rest of the world wants. Look at who CCP friends are. North Korea, Russia, Iran... all gutter governments.

Just look at the nonsense you are posting in this thread. I think it's hilarious that you claiming the Maori are Chinese because of some genetic history or some shit. The CCP is always trying to lay claim to fucking everything. Perhaps it's time for Africa to lay claim to China as the human race traces itself to Africa first and foremost.

This kind of bullshit only works within the borders of China. It's not going to work across the rest of the world where there is more freedom. The CCP simply will not be able to control information outside of its orders like it does within its borders.

The whole thing is a paradox for the CCP. They want to lead the world under their vision and stewwardship, but the world will not follow them unless they uphold basic principles of human rights. Like freedom of expression, freedom of access to information, etc. etc. Yet, their methods are to do the exact opposite; that is, control and manipulate. If they are not willing to change from such coercive strategies, then they will never be able to actually lead. Instead, they will simply dominate. Which would be detrimental to people's freedoms across the planet. Once the economic gravy train slows for China, they will have problems if they continue down this path. Especially domestically.

[Pants-of-dog]

Why dod China become the big bad enemy recently?

A year ago, no one was discussing China, now we have a whole series of threads about China.

Has something happened?

[noemon]

It begs the question, why have you never spoken of the plight of the Uyghurs, the sterilization of their women going on since 2015 with figures in the hundreds of thousands sterilised per year amidst a population of 12 million people.

I thought you stood for the human rights of people.