[Puffer Fish]

In a country like the U.S., abortion policy revolves around the individual woman's rights versus rights of the unborn human fetus.
But in an authoritarian Communist country like China, neither of these are really considerations. Instead it's all about whether the nation thinks that they need more or less babies being born, at a particular time.

Immediately after the war, in the 1950s, with widescale devastation and the fledgling new Communist country seeking to become more powerful and grow, abortion was banned in China, and women were pressured to have more children and big families.

Later, there were concerns about overpopulation, so in 1980 China implemented the "one child policy". Coming under pressure from the national government, many provincial level governments in China even began a policy of coercing and forcing women to have abortions. This reached a peak in the late 1980s to mid 1990s, with some documented cases up to as late as 2011.

link with some more information about that:
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php ... na.453061/

Almost comically, it looks like the Chinese government has now once again changed the course of its abortion policy.
China restricts abortions for 'non-medical purposes' - Al Jazeera, September 2021
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/2 ... l-purposes

The Chinese government has just issued new guidelines restricting the number of abortions that can be performed.

Even before this, the government had already enacted policy excluding mothers with only one child from medical insurance and social welfare payments.

The country had already enacted strict measures aimed at preventing sex-selective abortions in 2006, and in 2018 the health authorities launched a campaign warning that the use of abortion to end unwanted pregnancies was harmful to women's bodies and risks causing infertility.

The new policy is believed to be in response to China's declining birth rate, which policymakers believe will cause demographic, economic and societal problems in China's future.

thread with more information about that here:
"China has an intractable demographic problem"
viewtopic.php?f=114&t=181410

China's National Health Commission data shows that between 2014 and 2018, there had been an average of 9.7 million abortions per year, rising about 51 percent from the 2009-2013 average, despite a relaxation of the "family planning" policies in 2015.
In other words, despite government reducing the pressures on women to have fewer children, women were actually having more abortions, probably in response to increasing urbanization and rapidly expanding job opportunities, mostly in factories with very long hours.

Another factor may have been that due to China's Hukou system, migrant workers would have to pay for their children's education, since their family does not have a permit to live in that area, which probably put more pressure on some of these people not to have children. There was a huge wave of people moving from other provinces to the big cities near the east coast for better economic opportunities during this time.

So first the Chinese Communist Party banned abortions, then they started forcing women to have abortions, and finally they have now begun to ban women from having abortions again.

[senor boogie woogie]

Living in China and probably most of you know this….

China has too many older people and not enough children to support the social welfare system. Seems like in the Mao era where it was good to have as many children as possible and then in the 1980’s the country hit the breaks and went “You can only have one child.”, and then it was permissible to abort the fetus if it is a girl caused the country to have a sex displacement, a bad one, like a 108 men for every 100 women. It has gotten so bad that some Chinese men have gotten to import women from neighboring nations like Vietnam.

Now it’s “他妈的！” There are too many men and not enough women! What exacerbates the problem is that city people only want one child because of the expense and the need for both adults to work (China is expensive!). Even in the one child era in the 00’s (at least) the mother couldn’t find out in pregnancy if the child is a boy or a girl because of the gender displacement.

So now China allows people to have THREE children. They need it for workers to support the aged. China in about twenty years will lose to India it’s status as the ost populous country on Earth.

[JohnRawls]

Living in China and probably most of you know this….

China has too many older people and not enough children to support the social welfare system. Seems like in the Mao era where it was good to have as many children as possible and then in the 1980’s the country hit the breaks and went “You can only have one child.”, and then it was permissible to abort the fetus if it is a girl caused the country to have a sex displacement, a bad one, like a 108 men for every 100 women. It has gotten so bad that some Chinese men have gotten to import women from neighboring nations like Vietnam.

Now it’s “他妈的！” There are too many men and not enough women! What exacerbates the problem is that city people only want one child because of the expense and the need for both adults to work (China is expensive!). Even in the one child era in the 00’s (at least) the mother couldn’t find out in pregnancy if the child is a boy or a girl because of the gender displacement.

So now China allows people to have THREE children. They need it for workers to support the aged. China in about twenty years will lose to India it’s status as the ost populous country on Earth.

China lost to India in this regard long ago. (Last couple of years, max 5 years ago)

[MistyTiger]

I am not surprised about this.

Last month some Chinese men on LinkedIn were sending friendship requests. They see my profile picture and they are already planning on the wedding and babies, wouldn't put it past them. I feel like I should have a warning label like, "I am Asian but not eager to get preggers" or something like that. Some Chinese seem to be so desperate to reproduce...not me.

Every now and then I get requests from Asian men. It's annoying.

[Puffer Fish]

China has too many older people and not enough children to support the social welfare system. Seems like in the Mao era where it was good to have as many children as possible and then in the 1980’s the country hit the breaks and went “You can only have one child.”, and then it was permissible to abort the fetus if it is a girl caused the country to have a sex displacement, a bad one, like a 108 men for every 100 women.

You are mostly correct, but a correction to your post. It was not really "permissible". China passed a law trying to ban sex selective abortions. It was illegal for doctors to tell the parents the gender of their unborn baby. (This policy was passed in 2006 )
This was at the same time that China was conducting forced abortions.

(Kind of ironic, isn't it? Government pressuring and forcing you to kill your unborn baby, but trying to stop you from killing it because of its female gender)

I talked to a Chinese acquaintance who told me the killing of unborn girl babies was mostly done in poorer rural parts of China, not the big cities like Beijing or Shanghai in the East.
But at that time, this would probably have included 55% of the population (just guessing).

Well actually if you go back even further, like to the late 1990s, it was permissible. If you see the documentary "The Dying Rooms", many girl babies (actually born) were being treated with extreme neglect and left to die in government-run rural orphanages.