Politics_Observer wrote:That rally looked like trouble to begin with so the smart thing to do is not attend those kinds of crazy rallies in the first place.
Naturally. If I were to attend, it would be on the roof of a building, where my activity would be limited to observing dumbshit people with dumbshit problems.
Politics_Observer wrote:But from what I saw on the news, it was a bunch of Nazis that were being violent and used a car to commit a murder by running down demonstrators.
It was Antifa that initiated the violence. The car incident was a separate matter. James Fields was a mentally ill schizophrenic and drove his car into a crowd of people, apparently killing Heather Heyer in the process. You could certainly argue that Fields was a Nazi, but mentally ill people generally aren't fully within their faculties yet are allowed to roam free these days until they harm somebody.
Politics_Observer wrote:Those were Nazis in Charlottesville and they were definitely the "bad guys."
Some of the Unite the Right people were neo-Nazi types. Some of the neo-Nazis are serious assholes. Many of them are just under- or un-employed people that are more or less the victims of trade policies that favor outsourcing and the cheapest possible labor over domestic tranquility. Antifa is to the Democratic Party what the SA was to the Nazi party or what the IRA was to Sinn Fein. They are pretty much assholes to a person. Trump was right to call them out too. There were plenty of people on the right who were not neo-Nazis at all. Trump was right to point that out too.
Politics_Observer wrote:They argue that the capitalist class is well armed and willing to use violence and also cite how unarmed strikers in the past were gunned down by hired goons.
That's true. It's particularly true of industrial capitalists and unskilled laborers. Skilled laborers were able to unionize, and generally command higher wages.
Politics_Observer wrote:But the Pinkertons murdered those striking factory workers in cold blood back in the day and those guys were the factory owner's hired goons. And their is no doubt that it was the workers and not the factory owners that build that factory and made it successful but at a high cost to them (them being the factory workers).
That's largely true, but factories would not be built without aggregating capital. That's where finance comes in, fractional ownership, and why the political will was there to crush unskilled labor. Many of the commies on here are right to point out that the US has two capitalist parties--Nancy Pelosi says so unapologetically. That they are both right wing is something of a misnomer. They are both authoritarian, but left wing parties are notoriously authoritarian. The reason you see even marginal numbers of neo-Nazis is because the capitalist class is using race to divide the poor, blaming white people for the problems of non-white people. Yet, poor white people are not privileged at all, and they are rightly angered by that characterization in academia, media and political forums. Today, American unskilled labor is crushed with unemployment and welfare dependency, offshoring, and importing illegal immigrants to work under the table for cash. That's why there is so much human trafficking defended by the Democratic party. That's why I don't care who wins the Democratic nomination, so long as it isn't Joe Biden.
"We have put together the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics."
-- Joe Biden