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By slybaldguy
#14429013
I’ve taken it upon myself to initiate the foundation of a new nationalist group.

*Statement prepared by Ombrageux*


The National Union is a third-positionist organization.

We advocate:
* Globally: Diversity and pluralism.
* Nationally: Sovereignty and localism.
* Ethno-cultural and social cohesion.
* Rejection of imperialism.
* Rejection of financial, industrial, cultural and migratory borderlessness.
* Rejection of political correctness, equalism and either bourgeois or ethnically-motivated censorship.

Conditions for membership:
* Support for nationalism world-wide (not merely one's own nationalism).
* Rejection of political correctness.

We do not believe that the divisions of the day are between Left and Right, libertarianism and socialism, autocracy and democracy, religion or secularism. Today, the fundamental division is between nationalism and globalism. All other political choices eventually lead to either of these two alternatives.

For a variety of reasons, we opt for the national way. Perhaps the most basic is that without diverse and sovereign nations, there will be no more choice between these other political ideologies, but rather the stifling oppression of a single World-System which will almost undoubtedly take the form of a plutocratic economic neoliberalism and an alienating narcissistic hyper-individualism. We instead advocate a world of free nations, free to follow their particular genius and if necessary coalesce against any would-be global Empire.

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Membership is restricted to those who agree with the founding principles. If you are interested in joining please say so below.

Founding members:
Slybaldguy
Ombrageux
Stalker
Annatar1914
Cromwell
Last edited by slybaldguy on 28 Jun 2014 19:58, edited 4 times in total.
By annatar1914
#14429038
Sounds like something i'd like to be part of, can't say i'd disagree with what's been stated so far. I'll join if you'll have me. I really liked this part;

We do not believe that the divisions of the day are between Left and Right, libertarianism and socialism, autocracy and democracy, religion or secularism. Today, the fundamental division is between nationalism and globalism. All other political choices eventually lead to either of these two alternatives.


It really does seem to come down to that, just as when Russian Czarist Gen. Alexei Brusilov decided to help the Red Army after Poland invaded Russia in 1920.

Try to get FRS and Solastalgia to join, we need their voices I think.
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By Ombrageux
#14429169
Thanks to those who have already shown interest in joining. I think it will not take us long to fit the minimum requirements to form a club.

My main goal for the group is to have a cultural space of free discussion and sharing of dissenting literature. So we will try to have people who are not overly sectarian and are gentlemanly in debating others.
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By Ombrageux
#14429321
To clarify a point: We accept people of most political persuasions so long as they reject globalism. As such we are open to:
* Third positionists
* Left-wing nationalists
* Traditional social-democrats (e.g. Old Labour)
* Anti-immigration libertarians
* Paleoconservatives
* Direct-democrats
* Authoritarian reactionaries
* Etc.

The group is meant to be a pluralist, big-tent gathering which accepts differing viewpoints as normal and which is a space to discuss almost any topic in a gentlemanly manner.
Last edited by Ombrageux on 28 Jun 2014 19:31, edited 1 time in total.
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Ombrageux (emphasis added) wrote:We accept people of most political persuasions so long as they reject globalism. As such we are open to:
* Left-wing nationalists
* Anti-immigration libertarians
* Paleoconservatives
* Direct-democrats
* Authoritarian reactionaries

* Etc.

The group is meant to be a pluralist, big-tent gathering which accepts differing viewpoints as normal and which is a space to discuss almost any topic in a gentlemanly manner.

It's a good thing that you didn't have the audacity to put 'third position' in the name of this splinter-group then, because your criteria now involves recruiting some of its biggest opponents, who I have highlighted in cherry colour.

Can anyone now question the wisdom behind my decision to pre-emptively purge your clique from PFTP?
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By slybaldguy
#14429334
I kindly request that Ombrageux updates the list to include Third Positionists and Social Democrats. I am an Integralist/Third Positionist and see no contradiction in co-operating with other sovereignists.
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slybaldguy wrote:I kindly request that Ombrageux updates the list to include Third Positionists and Social Democrats. I am an Integralist/Third Positionist and see no contradiction in co-operating with other sovereignists.

Haha, yes, it seems you all forgot to actually put a list of Third Position ideologies on your list.

Isn't that amazing? I've come to the conclusion that splits on the right, are actually more mindbogglingly and unintentionally hilarious than splits on the left. Even the best and most juicy arguments between Stalin and Trotsky have nothing on this.

A Third Position splinter, in which one side forgets to include Third Position ideologies but does manage to make space for the Tea Party and Christian Dominionists.
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By Flaro
#14429344
Well I like this, are you guys okay of having me who has of national, traditional, a bit of religious twist in him?

Otherwise I'm in.
Well I guess I will wait, for the, obviousness, of my political position to come about.
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By slybaldguy
#14429348
Ombrageux and myself disagree on a variety of issues. However, we are united by our Anti-Globalism. This is group will be a broad church and as such we welcome nationalists of all stripes.
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By slybaldguy
#14429366
Read the whole summary. We are for national sovereignty and against all that erodes it. This includes mass immigration, borderlessness and cultural marxism. All these positions fit in with the third position.
By annatar1914
#14429374
Rei Murasame wrote:Or is it just Pat Buchanan's writings with "3P" stuck onto it somewhere? Totally as an afterthought?


Rei, let things work out organically, it probably wouldn't hurt to have multiple right-wing voices and groups out there.
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