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This is more based towards the totalitarian technocrats, as I reckon most of you are.

With the coming of automation and the like, it has been established that society of much time and of much abundance would be formed. Such seems very good for any society, but a problem is created. People will have free time to become educated. And with the education of more and more people, comes the inevitable problem of them running into inferior ideas and adopting them as their own. This leads to dissent.

Now an obvious solution would be censorship, but much easier when people have less time, for there is much more time not only to read, but to write and to plan.

So, I pose this question to you, how do you keep free time but keep the majority of people in a standstill of political and philosophical knowledge?
By Khalq
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This is more based towards the totalitarian technocrats, as I reckon most of you are.

As far as I know, Technocracy has nothing to share with totalitarian ideologies (like fascism if that is what you have in mind).

With the coming of automation and the like, it has been established that society of much time and of much abundance would be formed. Such seems very good for any society, but a problem is created. People will have free time to become educated.

Education is far from being a problem, it is instead a solution to most problems. With education and with it only will people realise their real potential, the real potential of society, will understand why the current system cannot work anymore, why a society divided in class is not a viable and effective option anymore, why the price system is no more necessary and has in fact become a barrier to any social progress. Education is construction.

And with the education of more and more people, comes the inevitable problem of them running into inferior ideas and adopting them as their own. This leads to dissent.

Inferior ideas like Racism for example? With a little education, people will realise there is not much difference between a black and a white, an Arab and a Slav, a Jew and an animist, etc. There are two type of racists: the complete idiot who thinks he is the center of the world, that his nation is the Chosen One, that there is less intelligence the more the skin gets colored... a little education will hopefully change his/her mind to the better and eventually a psychiatric institution would also help.
The other type is the economic one who hates foreigners because they take his job and salary. This kind will not exist under Technocracy since everyone will have his/her place in the society.
Maybe you have another example of "inferior ideas"?

Now an obvious solution would be censorship, but much easier when people have less time, for there is much more time not only to read, but to write and to plan.

Censorship changes nothing, it only delays what you call "dissident ideas", but eventually it strengthen them. Having free speech is the best way to ridiculize and undermine dissent. And why would you have dissent in the first place?

So, I pose this question to you, how do you keep free time but keep the majority of people in a standstill of political and philosophical knowledge?

Why do you not ask this question in the P&D forum, instead? It is more related to fascism than Technocracy. People there will be glad to answer this question.
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By Attila The Nun
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Education is far from being a problem, it is instead a solution to most problems. With education and with it only will people realise their real potential, the real potential of society, will understand why the current system cannot work anymore, why a society divided in class is not a viable and effective option anymore, why the price system is no more necessary and has in fact become a barrier to any social progress. Education is construction.


This is precisely the mindset which is to be stamped out. It is with these inferior ideas which would lead to the fall from power I am discussing avoiding. Also, why is "social progress" and classless society a goal to be set for a government?

Inferior ideas like Racism for example? With a little education, people will realise there is not much difference between a black and a white, an Arab and a Slav, a Jew and an animist, etc. There are two type of racists: the complete idiot who thinks he is the centre of the world, that his nation is the Chosen One, that there is less intelligence the more the skin gets colored... a little education will hopefully change his/her mind to the better and eventually a psychiatric institution would also help.
The other type is the economic one who hates foreigners because they take his job and salary. This kind will not exist under Technocracy since everyone will have his/her place in the society.
Maybe you have another example of "inferior ideas"?


Ok, communism, socialism, democracy.

Racism is not necassarily a bad thing. It could be the very thing which gives the morale to the country to win a war, and it never hurts to use it in propoganda. It is merely playing on the lack of intelligence already present in the inheritly weak minds of the masses.

Censorship changes nothing, it only delays what you call "dissident ideas", but eventually it strengthen them. Having free speech is the best way to ridiculize and undermine dissent. And why would you have dissent in the first place?


I said it was not a viable solution, although we certainly cannot allow inferior or dangerous ideas to fester.

We would have dissent because people might disagree with our politics.

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