Beren wrote:And you do it so proudly, huh?
Well, let's do this. I will bet you $100 that the next world cup team fielded by the Chinese will not have an African in it.
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Rancid wrote:Well, let's do this. I will bet you $100 that the next world cup team fielded by the Chinese will not have an African in it.
Beren wrote:That's exactly my point too. They are ethnicists rather than nationalists, or rather they are the same to them. Which is the opposite of the American concept.
noemon wrote:In Greek, the term for a nationalist is Ethnikistis, so that's identical there too.
noemon wrote:However he is doing that in the most obtuse way possible and PoD you have not provided evidence that they did not conduct such breeding, your quote only suggests that that they were bred in quantities to make more free slaves for the slavemaster, the article does not deal at all with whether the slave masters were choosing the finest specimen for their breeding programs which one can safely assume that they were indeed.
Pants-of-dog wrote:The whole "slaves were bred for athleticism" myth is a common racist myth that has no evidence.
If @Missus V. Spolia. wishes to provide evidence for this claim, I will look at it.
A quick glance at the available evidence, however, seems to show the myth is incorrect.
From Psychology Today: For example, among the American sample, those who identify themselves as “very liberal” in early adulthood have a mean childhood IQ of 106.4, whereas those who identify themselves as “very conservative” in early adulthood have a mean childhood IQ of 94.8.
Look, I am not worried about Washington cutting too much spending too fast. I mean, the kinds of spending cuts we're talking about just right now are $100 billion out of a $3.7 trillion budget.
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Beren wrote:You just can't identify with the Hungarian nation if you don't speak the language, and they can't identify with you as well because Hungarians rarely speak other languages than their own. You also can't be aware of the culture and history you should identify with if you don't speak Hungarian. That's why there is no formidable Hungarian diaspora anywhere, because they lose their identity without the language. However, what I meant to say is that Hungarians will treat you as a fellow Hungarian if you speak their language, and you don't even need to speak it so well.
Missus V. Spolia wrote:Everyone knows what I mean by the "token black guy" in movies, and the same applies to sports but in a different way, its a stereotype.
Missus V. Spolia wrote:I think that groups that represent the country should look like the country, thats just my belief based on common-sense.
Missus V. Spolia wrote:Its odd when the french team is not french at all and I doubt i'm the only one who ever thought that or that thinking that automatically means I'm racist.
Missus V. Spolia wrote:I would say the same thing about the Nigerian team. I'm sure if every player on the Nigerian team were white, people would find that odd too and you would probably call it racist.
anasawad wrote:France didn't have chattel slavery.
Slavery began fading out of western Europe around the middle ages before the peak or even large scale expansion of colonial empires.
SolarCross wrote:You have heard of the French Foreign Legion? Well this is the sporting equivalent.
anasawad wrote:Colonial empires did use slavery, though not significantly on their own soil, unlike the US.
Oxymandias wrote:Slavery was uncommon in France proper but was often used in its colonies.
Missus V. Spolia wrote:I don't see whats so controversial about this, its literally right before our eyes on the television. Its unavoidable.
SolarCross wrote:The US was a colony itself though, one that went its own way but a colony none the less.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Please provide evidence that black slaves of French people were selectively bred to be better athletes.
SolarCross wrote:I don't know about active selective breeding as farmers have been doing for livestock since the dawn of history but the life of a slave was apparently a particularly punishing one, especially on the ships during the crossing of the Atlantic. That would have been a selection pressure for general hardiness in itself.
Missus V. Spolia wrote:No it doesn't, because the slave owners purchased the strong males and the curvy females (showing higher estrogen levels) at the market, so letting them freely breed once on the farm was no different than selective breeding, as the selection was made at market for preferred traits. Likewise, slave merchants, knowing this demand for healthy slaves would have then pursued better quality stock in Africa knowing market demand.
Pants-of-dog wrote:You claimed that Fench slaves were bred and this makes them better athletes.
Pants-of-dog wrote:It is also common sense to think that the Earth is flat, but no one with any intelligence actually thinks so.
noemon wrote:And he is correct to assert that or to try and push you towards a direction in which you will have to acknowledge that, your assumption that this level of natural selection process would not have occurred in Africa is misplaced and if you want to talk common sense then clearly you are wrong because if you did watch football you would notice that the majority of Black players playing in Europe have actually been born in Africa.
Rancid wrote:China is too nationalistic for this to ever happen. I wouldn't put it past China to selectively breed ethnic Chinese for sports though.
Red_Army wrote:It is also interesting how super racist SEC football fans can put aside their racism to rabbidly support their 90% non-white teams playing for colleges they've never set foot in
Victoribus Spolia wrote:But that was part of my wife's point too, it sometimes feels like blacks are being used for our entertainment. Indeed, professional sports is the only opportunity some inner-city kids have right now to actually make it big. Something seems off about all that, like society is putting them into a cliche role just for our entertainment. That does seem kinda racist....
Victoribus Spolia wrote:This is besides the whole head-injury bullshit, which to me just means we have become so weak that we can't even have full-contact sports anymore (I mean, if you don't want to get your head banged around, don't become an NFL player, its that simple).
Drlee wrote:Let me interject into this blatantly racist thread that I was disappointed to learn the my fellow conservatives have lower IQs than liberls:
blackjack21 wrote:Is that like "the painted man" in Kevin Kostner's Robin Hood?
blackjack21 wrote:This was a popular television show in the 1980s in the United States
blackjack21 wrote:Do you find anything peculiar about a white man with a very strange tie having a white daughter, two black sons and no mother?
blackjack21 wrote:I wonder if the French welfare system makes them noncompetitive at sport?
blackjack21 wrote:Maybe we should have an international chess competition and see how that works out.
blackjack21 wrote:I'm sure the Haitians will feel relieved to know that the Code Noir was just fake news. CNN probably just made the whole thing up.
blackjack21 wrote:It could be that they are trying to sell an ideology that ignores history.
blackjack21 wrote:That is to say, it didn't approximate the scientific rigor of 20th Century scientists. So therefore, it could not have possibly happened.
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