[RedSun]

I have finding some troubles in identify my ideology so i taught that you guys could help me .

On the economic camp and Social Camp i have those view :

Economy

- All major industries shall be taken out of private hands and nationalized.
- Free health care and education for every citizen.
- The classes must work together to achieve the good of the Nation .
- All Industries must be organized under corporations
- Labor Unions are put under state control and making them appropriate to Syndicalism
- Economic Protectionism
- Natural resources are under state control
- Nothing Outside the State
- - Business must be regulated in order to don't do any damage to the environment


Social Right's

- No LGBT right's
- Abortion is outlawed
- Illegal Immigrants are expelled of the country
- Death penalty is legal for those who rape or murder someone
- Religion is abolished from schools
- Cosmopolitanism is forbidden
- All political partys are banned
- Nationality is given by blood
- Draft to military is compulsory
- Animals have the same right's than humans
- Political Police to serve the needs of the nation

My Political Compass and my political test gave me this :

Economic Left/Right: -9.55
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 9.10





Where do i fit ?

[Tribbles]

I think you fit the category "fascist" pretty well.

Since you are anti-religion, you also fit this forum pretty well. (Even though I try to defend the more traditionalist-religious elements of fascism)

Have you ever heard of Lenin`s theory from the NEP period, that the party must control the "commanding heights" of the economy? Those are the production of raw-materials, oil, minerals and wood - natural resources.

In my country (Norway) and in certain other countries such as Libya (until recently) and Venezuela, the ruling party or group have nationalized oil-production in order to give the state a financial boost.

It works very well. The extra income can be used for either tax-cut, or a more generous welfare-policy.

If you choose more welfare, a lot of people might find a good niche in exploiting it though. I use Giovanni Gentile as an inspiration on finding the correct way to tackle this group in another thread at this sub-forum.

[RedSun]

I think you fit the category "fascist" pretty well.

I didn't know if i was a National Bolchevist or a Fascist because i scored high in the economics .

I'm glad to know that i'm a Fascist but it will be hard to find a party that suits my ideology since this new far right only cares about immigrants and also should care on the economic stance .

Since you are anti-religion, you also fit this forum pretty well. (Even though I try to defend the more traditionalist-religious elements of fascism)

I'm not anti religion but i think should be banned from school because here is the place to learn something that could benefit the nation and i don't think that knowing how to praying is going to help my country .

Have you ever heard of Lenin`s theory from the NEP period, that the party must control the "commanding heights" of the economy? Those are the production of raw-materials, oil, minerals and wood - natural resources.

Lenin understand that after the German Revolution had failed that communism was doomed and then he applied State Capitalism .

Stalin manage to put the economy on a very good shape since he put Russia from a Feudalistic country into a superpower like Russia was .

But i disagree with Stalin because he could make an agreement with Mussolini and saved the Italian Social Republic the perfect model of Fascism to me .

Despite it was only 2 years Mussolini managed to redistribute the Land among the workers , Nationalize most of those industry and he could bring to the government old Marxist including Bombacci a ex-Lenine friend who was the founder of the Italian Communist Party .

In my country (Norway) and in certain other countries such as Libya (until recently) and Venezuela, the ruling party or group have nationalized oil-production in order to give the state a financial boost.

It works very well. The extra income can be used for either tax-cut, or a more generous welfare-policy.

My country could use his EEZ and his time exposing to the sun to improve the green energies that will lead to became a more independent from Oil .

Most of my country is being sell until we got nothing on the public hands .

Even the power energy we sold to the Chinese guys .

If you choose more welfare, a lot of people might find a good niche in exploiting it though. I use Giovanni Gentile as an inspiration on finding the correct way to tackle this group in another thread at this sub-forum.

Welfare should be only to those who do something for the society not for Parasites that want's to live at state expenses .

But for the welfare became free for everyone we should have to be self-reliant to avoid to import foreign products mainly from china witch i totally reject not because it's from an Asia country but for the conditions of the Chinese people to work and their cheap wage .

[starman2003]

- All major industries shall be taken out of private hands and nationalized.

A fascist wouldn't go that far but would be content to simply diominate corporations and businesses with regulations.

- Free health care and education for every citizen.

Just the latter. Again smacks more of socialism.

- The classes must work together to achieve the good of the Nation .
- All Industries must be organized under corporations
- Labor Unions are put under state control and making them appropriate to Syndicalism
- Economic Protectionism
- Natural resources are under state control
- Nothing Outside the State
- - Business must be regulated in order to don't do any damage to the environment

Good.

- Abortion is outlawed

Should be allowed if pregnancy resulted from rape or if the fetus is determined to be defective.

- Illegal Immigrants are expelled of the country

Those who support the state should be allowed to stay.

- Death penalty is legal for those who rape or murder someone

Again, too inflexible. Some rapists could get hard labor for X years; and killing a retard shouldn't be a capital offense.

- Religion is abolished from schools

Should be discouraged generally.

- Cosmopolitanism is forbidden

I think in this day and age, it's inevitable.

- All political partys are banned

Even the best?

- Nationality is given by blood

Too archaic.

- Draft to military is compulsory

Some exceptions should be permitted e.g. those engaged in vital research or defense work.

- Animals have the same right's than humans

Nothing against conservation and preservation of species but this...

- Political Police to serve the needs of the nation

Fine.

[RedSun]

A fascist wouldn't go that far but would be content to simply diominate corporations and businesses with regulations.

But Fascism doesn't need to be stuck in the principles of XX century .

I want to control heavy Industries , Natural resources along with the Nationalization of the Banks .

Just the latter. Again smacks more of socialism.

As i said i would put what benefits more my country .

- The classes must work together to achieve the good of the Nation .
- All Industries must be organized under corporations
- Labor Unions are put under state control and making them appropriate to Syndicalism
- Economic Protectionism
- Natural resources are under state control
- Nothing Outside the State
- - Business must be regulated in order to don't do any damage to the environment

Good.

Should be allowed if pregnancy resulted from rape or if the fetus is determined to be defective.

It could that way but we need to do more search in the pros and cons of that .

Those who support the state should be allowed to stay.

No sorry .

D.João II didn't fight with Spain for independence just for nothing .

Most of those ilegal immigrants beg for money , assalt and rape woman .

Again, too inflexible. Some rapists could get hard labor for X years; and killing a retard shouldn't be a capital offense.

They only deserve Death penalty since i dispise people like that .

Should be discouraged generally.

I Agree with you .

I think in this day and age, it's inevitable.

My country faces a massive desertification of the old village so we need to redistribute people among those villages .

Even the best?

We don't need the best party but the best leader .

We had that in Portugal a weak one party ( National Union ) but a good leader in the economics like we had with Salazar .

Too archaic.

I don't want to have a country full of people who lives here only for 30 yeras and live from social security or rob .

Most of those guys buy ID to get Portuguese citizenship .

Of course are some good immigrants and we will see if they support the state or not if not they go to their country .

Some exceptions should be permitted e.g. those engaged in vital research or defense work.

We need to get a good military service in order to avoid ending like Libya because with the leaving of EU , Euro and Nato it's sure that capitalist thugs and nato thugs will do anything to bring corrupts to power again .

Nothing against conservation and preservation of species but this...

We need to stop the abuses against animals so that's why they have the same rights

[starman2003]

But Fascism doesn't need to be stuck in the principles of XX century .

I want to control heavy Industries , Natural resources along with the Nationalization of the Banks .

The 20th century fascist approach was pretty clever. They got the best of both worlds; for all practical purposes they controlled industry but it was still privately owned so the incentive wasn't lost.

As i said i would put what benefits more my country .

Socialism doesn't do that. Eugenics would but free health care generally benefits individuals not the state.

- Economic Protectionism

Wait this isn't so good.

No sorry .

D.João II didn't fight with Spain for independence just for nothing .

Most of those ilegal immigrants beg for money , assalt and rape woman .

Punishing the guilty is fine but I think this anti-immigrant thing is futile.

They only deserve Death penalty since i dispise people like that .

So do I but one should be practical.

I Agree with you .

Great; who needs holy bs.

We don't need the best party but the best leader .

But a party is needed to uphold the best ideology it stands for. Leaders don't last forever; new ones must be drawn from the ranks of the party.

We need to get a good military service in order to avoid ending like Libya because with the leaving of EU , Euro and Nato it's sure that capitalist thugs and nato thugs will do anything to bring corrupts to power again .

I don't think nations will leave, I think international control will increase.

We need to stop the abuses against animals so that's why they have the same rights

I care little about domesticated animals; a good facist, or statist, while not sadistic, is concerned with the whole not individual people let alone beasts.