[Godstud]

French was spoken by natives in North America before most of France.

I stopped reading your text after this blatant LIE/falsehood/bullshit. I hope you aren't a teacher. Are you going to tell me the world is 5000 years old, too?

History of the French Language
https://slmc.uottawa.ca/?q=french_history

Aboriginal Languages of Canada
The distribution of language families, or languages with a common ancestor, is quite varied across Canada. Languages from two families, Algonquian and Iroquoian, are traditionally found east of Lake Winnipeg. In the Prairies, there are speakers of Algonquian, Siouan, and Dene (Athapaskan/Athabaskan/Athabascan and Tlingit) languages, while speakers of Dene, Inuit and Algonquian languages inhabit the Subarctic. The province of British Columbia is linguistically highly diverse, with languages of the Salishan, Tsimshian, Wakashan, Dene (Athapaskan/Athabaskan/Athabascan and Tlingit) and Algonquian families spoken there as well as the isolates Haida/Xaad Kil and Kutenai/Ktunaxa. Related languages are found in other regions: Algonquian, Iroquoian, Dene, Siouan and Salishan languages are also spoken in the United States; and languages that are closely related to Inuit are spoken in the United States, as well as in Siberia and Greenland. The Dene languages are thought to be related to the Yeniseian languages of Siberia.
http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/e ... languages/

Please note the absence of FRENCH, as a native dialect.

French Canadians are descendants of Canada's colonial-era French settlers. Most live in the province of Quebec, where they form a majority of the population. The past thirty-five years have seen a strong rebirth of the French Canadians' sense of cultural identity. It has been accompanied by a political separatist movement with far-reaching implications not only for Quebec, but for all of Canada.
http://www.everyculture.com/wc/Brazil-t ... z3nkDDT9Be

[Zamuel]

Does this mean the French are really speaking Quebecois, rather than the Quebecois speaking French?

Nah, Quebecois is actually an affliction sent by god to punish them for their Papist plot to divide the USA.

Zam

[QatzelOk]

Does this mean the French are really speaking Quebecois, rather than the Quebecois speaking French?

Quebec spoke French before France did. That's a historical fact.

But more importantly is that Canada and the USA emerge without a distinct language or history. The only "history" of these countries is that multinational corporations destroyed all the local populations, and left behind a bunch of meek mixed-nationality nothings to work in the mines and on the assembly lines.

It looks like the model for the rest of the world. One that NATO is applying all over the place.

Behold, a world of Cherokees beckoning to be ethnic-cleansed and replaced by alienated worker-drones who've been taken out of their cultures.

[The Immortal Goon]

Why do you have to work so hard to make us Anglophobes look like ranting and raving lunatics?

You have to be an Anglophile trying to make anybody that opposes England look terrible. There's no other explanation for this gibberish.

[Decky]

Looks like Goon has been looking at the text for so long that it has consumed him.

[QatzelOk]

Why do you have to work so hard to make us Anglophobes look like ranting and raving lunatics?

In the Anglosphere that emerged after the creation of multinational corporations pretending to be states in Canada and the USA... it became a common social attribute to be the type of person who strives for normality.

This is partially due to the application of "mental health" programs that locked up anyone opposed to the commercial state. And of the many "witch hunts" that were staged to keep any kind of culture or social project from emerging.

Everyone just goes to church, or watches TV and movies... and then they try to be "normal" like the people in the stories they've tried to replace real life with.

That's the kind of countries that have emerged. If you show one sincere emotion, or try to be truthful, you are systematically accused of being deranged.

Like "dead boring and idea-free" is the only way to get a good reputation in this kind of society.

Looks like Goon has been looking at the text for so long that it has consumed him.

It consumes all of us. This is what makes reading so dangerous. There's always a risk of losing your lucidity and being sucked into some author's flattery and entertainment.

[The Immortal Goon]

What's really great about French culture is the lack of culture. No reading, no movies, no pictures, nothing. Just integer-demensional French angels that draw the worship of savage natives, who had no culture before the lack of French culture got rid of it.

The natives, stripped of their identity, dignity, and land, all shed tears for poor Qatz, who had to endure people rolling their eyes at his proud rejection of facts in order to build a narrative that doesn't make any sense.

[Zamuel]

Why do you have to work so hard to make us Anglophobes look like ranting and raving lunatics?

This is just expression of deeply seated fears, so tumultuous they poor forth without any restraint from an obviously terrified subconscious. To much French and an overdose of maple syrup can do that to you ...

Zam

[Godstud]

Quebec spoke French before France did. That's a historical fact.

That is , categorically, untrue. Provide a source for this outlandish, and idiotic, claim.

French didn't colonize Quebec until the 1600s. That's the fact. I even posted a source that refutes your made-up/nonsense statements. Why do you have to create your own fantasy world and lie to perpetuate your bullshit Francophone agenda?

[Stormsmith]

If eastern First Nations folk spoke French before the French did, it suggests Franco Corporate Canadian wannabes positively steamrolled the1st nations languages, with little regard for their cultural integrity.

Or maybe it's just that the 1st Nations folks were smart enough to learn French from the Franco-corporate barrons, which makes one wonder why French peons who scuttled about for the French elite failed to learn it.

I think you're overlooking the fact that most languages evolve over time. Quebec French and Continental French aren't identical

Which is why these two fake nations are so interested in burqas and shariah law now: fuel for their non-stop looting.

I think you'll find that Quebec's government is the one that put prohibitions on Islamic garb.

As for your 20th -21st century culture, never mind. You've still got split pea soup, poutine and American jazz. You'll be alright.

PS
which annoys you more, Republic of Doyle or "dubbed into French" Downtown Abby?

[QatzelOk]

It's incorrect that I make lukewarm Anglophones look like raving lunatics. In fact, boring unconvincing Anglophobes don't need their reputations shattered. They shatter their own reputations, as if programmed to booby-trap themselves by interacting with too much and exclusively English-language media products.

North America is all English speaking, and it's almost a blank slate of a culture.

Heavily anglicized anglophobes tend to fall into the semantic traps of Anglo conventions. The box is the language itself and the firewall against foreign ideas that this exclusivity creates in any culture. Even its half-hearted Anglophobes.

[Godstud]

Stop the cowardly evading and admit you're a Quebecois bigot, who makes up lies to support a lame worthless argument.

[Stormsmith]

English readily adds new words, some created to symbolise new thoughts and inventions, some adopted from other languages. No country is more restrictive regarding language than France.

What do you conclude from that?

[Zamuel]

English readily adds new words, some created to symbolise new thoughts and inventions, some adopted from other languages. No country is more restrictive regarding language than France. What do you conclude from that?

Doesn't everybody already know the French are perfect ?

Zam

[QatzelOk]

English readily adds new words, some created to symbolise new thoughts and inventions, some adopted from other languages. No country is more restrictive regarding language than France.

What do you conclude from that?

The French language was the first one on earth to have an Academy to control its evolution. This is why French was used on contract law in Europe for centuries.

To this day, in Canada, when there is a doubt as to what the English version means, everyone asks 'Does it work in French' in order to confirm the accuracy of the interpretation.

French was designed to be accurate. English wasn't.

Which one should start people use, the accurate one or the vague one?

If you're English Canadian or American... you reach for your gun when confronted with other cultures that don't have the same brainwashing that you do.

[Godstud]

To this day, in Canada, when there is a doubt as to what the English version means, everyone asks 'Does it work in French' in order to confirm the accuracy of the interpretation.

No, they do not. Stop making up things.

French was designed to be accurate. English wasn't.

False. French is just another language. Nothing more. nothing less.

If you're English Canadian or American... you reach for your gun when confronted with other cultures that don't have the same brainwashing that you do.

Marc Lépine would disagree with you. Oh sorry, does that wreck your false narrative?

[QatzelOk]

French is just another language. Nothing more. nothing less.

That you don't know anything about the history of either language... makes it seem all the same to you, but the history of the two languages is very different.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Story-French- ... 0312341849

http://www.amazon.com/Empires-Word-Lang ... 0060935723

English is a variation of a 16th Century peasant language (thus the phrasal verbs), while French is a carefully-crafted version of Latin meant to be spoken by Germanic people (like English or Germans). French was created like Esperanto - as a unifying language for different cultures.

Islam was also created as a bridge between peoples.

English was just the most commonly spoken peasant language in the British Isles. It wasn't crafted for accuracy.

Likewise, Canada and the USA weren't crafted to reflect local culture. They were applied like toxic stucco OVER all the local cultures.

[Godstud]

Is this the same guy who told me that French was a native language? You only post this when it suits you, and when it does not, you ignore it.
Stop the bullshit, already.

[Zamuel]

Is this the same guy who told me that French was a native language? You only post this when it suits you, and when it does not, you ignore it. Stop the bullshit, already.

Kinda have to agree ... There are a few tidbits of truth here and there, exaggerated and distorted into a maniacal rant against authority. Very post war French, almost de Gaulle(ish) !

France was for centuries the MOST progressive nation on the planet. The Revolution and Napolleon knocked them down a bit, but they recovered and remained a notable influence right up until WWI & WWII. They never really bounced back from those events. The French language developed primarily under the influence of philosophy, prose, and poetry. It is well suited for conceptual communication and is still one of the 3 languages of choice for diplomatic discussions. It is stable and doesn't change much.

English, on the other hand, developed as a technological language and is unrivaled in it's capabilities. It is a LIVE language that evolves steadily to keep pace with the changing world around it. Denigrating it is exceptionally stupid, it's a major human asset.

Zam

[QatzelOk]

tion and is still one of the 3 languages of choice for diplomatic discussions. It is stable and doesn't change much.

English, on the other hand, developed as a technological language and is unrivaled in it's capabilities. It is a LIVE language that evolves steadily to keep pace with the changing world around it. Denigrating it is exceptionally stupid, it's a major human asset.

it involved as a "technical" language in the 16th Century. The technique we're talking about is farming. English was a farmer language, which is why it has so many phrasal verbs (get up, get down, blow up, take off) as a way of filling the holes in a peasant vocabulary that was void of abstract concepts.

English people say "unrivaled in its capabilities" because they hear this on mass media about other products and services. It's anglo marketing-speak, and it has contaminated the meanings of most English words by charging them with positive or negative associations in order to sell stuff to dummies who can't understand abstract principles very well.

North America is full of "smart" shoppers who are very, very dumb people to talk to about anything remotely abstract like politics or culture.