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One Degree wrote:@jimjam
You realize Huey Long is considered one of the most corrupt politicians in history? His ‘populism’ would be the same as Richard Daley’s. They both ran corrupt political organizations under the pretense of helping people they never intended to help.
During Long's years in power, great strides were made in infrastructure, education and health care. Long was notable among southern politicians for avoiding race baiting, and according to T. Harry Williams, Long sought to improve the lot of poor blacks as well as poor whites. Under Long's leadership, hospitals and educational institutions were expanded, a system of charity hospitals was set up that provided health care for the poor, massive highway construction and free bridges brought an end to rural isolation.
Hindsite wrote:Who pays for Bernie Sanders' giveaways?
You're only progressive with other people's paychecks
Drlee wrote:What a load of shit. Do try to read some history. Just a brief Wiki quote. You will, of course, ignore it because it does not fit your world view and you can't imagine admitting you are wrong.
Louisiana Governorship (1928–32) Edit
Once in office as governor on May 21, 1928, Long moved quickly to consolidate his power, firing hundreds of opponents in the state bureaucracy, at all ranks from cabinet-level heads of departments and board members to rank-and-file civil servants and state road workers. Like previous governors, he filled the vacancies with patronage appointments from his own network of political supporters. Every state employee who depended on Long for a job was expected to pay a portion of his or her salary at election time directly into Long's political war-chest, which raised $50,000 to $75,000 (equivalent to about $700,000 to $1,000,000 in 2013 dollars) each election cycle. The funds were kept in a famous locked "deduct box" to be used at Long's discretion for political and personal purposes. The American historian David Kennedy wrote that the extremely authoritarian regime Long established in Louisiana was "... the closest thing to a dictatorship that America has ever known".
One Degree wrote: under the pretense of helping people they never intended to help.
jimjam wrote:Drlee is right. Your comment applies to your hero Donald not Huey. Donald serves up a lot of hot air for po folk but his actions help his buddies in the Billionaires Club. Huey played rough, he was power hungry and kicked ass …… that's how the game is played but he actually delivered lots for poor folks. Examples are numerous. I have read three biographies of the man but do not have the time or inclination to educate you.
Here is a quick sample: Long brought highways, public schools, publicly-financed textbooks, and charity hospitals around the state. He took on Standard Oil and the established political machine. (Do you think Standard Oil and the established political machine will play with a deck that is not stacked if you say, "please"? )
jimjam wrote:Today’s Christian nationalists talk a good game about respecting the Constitution and America’s founders, but at bottom they sound as if they prefer autocrats to democrats. In fact, what they really want is a king. “It is God that raises up a king,” according to Paula White, a prosperity gospel preacher who has advised Mr. Trump.
Drlee wrote:I don't know what you are trying to say. I do know you misread your poll. But never mind. The problem is not with all US adults. (The people you refer to as religious.) The problem is with white evangelicals who vote overwhelmingly republican. They are a problem because they are concentrated in areas in which, due to our absurd two-senator and electoral college system) gives them FAR more political power than a woman living in Las Angeles.
When the US exported its flavor of democracy to the rest of the world the ones who embraced it embraced it with one exception. None of them accepted anything other than one-person-one-vote.
12% if the population controls 60% of the senators. Pain and simple we are not a democracy. This is a remnant of racism in its most extreme form. Slavery. It remains a boon to racism. It gives white evangelicals far more power than a black woman in Chicago.
If we were a democracy, senators, like congressmen would be set by population. (If we had them at all.) This country would be quite a different place.
So it is pointless to try to argue what you are arguing. It is simply a shallow attempt to cover the FACT that a black person in San Diego is under represented in our government and a white male from Wyoming dramatically over represented.
So white evangelicals are vastly over represented in our government. Full stop.
Your argument only makes sense if you believe in forced conformity through centralized control. The question is why should anyone determine how everyone lives.
Why should we want to be uniform?
It is a telling question when you try to explain why the people of Los Angeles should have any say in how the people of Montana live?
Liberals are concentrated in metropolitan areas. Conservatives in rural areas. Two different lifestyles. Why should one decide how the other lives?
What? You are using the wrong words to discuss the wrong point.
I see you wish to retreat from your support of Trump and his ilk and go back to your tribal notions of governance. I do not do that. It is pointless. We live in an oligarchy now and must do what we can to constrain it. The mid terms are a tiny start but it remains to be seen if that revolution can continue.
I'm sorry. You are the one decrying diversity as a bad thing. You have endlessly posted about how immigrants are changing our culture. You are the one arguing for conformity. Did you change your mind?
Ok. So you believe in the breaking apart of the Union. Your sig says so. So stop supporting Trump. He is the very opposite of that.
So you consider ones notions of proper governance as "lifestyle"? Interesting. I don't. Besides. The ones who want to constrain everyone's "lifestyle" choices are republicans who think they are conservative. They want to remove reproductive choice. They want conformity in school curriculum. They want to censor television, choices about drugs and the like. What more telling example than the forcing of teaching Christian beliefs in public schools which has been a conservative talking point for years. The only thing that your so-called "California liberals" want to do that would affect the lifestyle of a rural American is require equal rights for all citizens and provide access to health care. What is it that California Liberals want to do that would affect someone in Wyoming other than lower the cost of their college education, give them access to health care and protect the rights of all of them? You tell me what the parade of horribles is that you fear.
Really guy. You have it backwards. This is not a thread about dissolving the union. It is about Trump and his lunatic policies. I wish you would look up the word "liberal" and understand what it means for a change.
Your arguments are based upon the belief all conservatives are the religious right. An interesting fallacy considering you claim to be a conservative yet don’t know who they are.
Hindsite wrote:Perhaps that is because democrats have become socialists and Christians prefer the Trump of God. Christians are waiting for the return of our Lord and Savior and King of kings, Christ Jesus.
jimjam wrote:I used to respect Christians an honest moral people. Now that I see they have chosen a liar, thief, pussy grabber and all around blowhard as their role model my respect is rapidly fading. Add to that their idea that a retired fire fighter hallucinating on the kitchen floor predicted that Trump would be their leader out of the wilderness ………….
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