annatar1914 wrote:@Hindsite ;
But that is precisely what you don't understand; these policies are anything but Socialist, they're anti-Socialist, designed to prevent the working people from turning to Socialism as an answer. It's bribery of the poor by the rich, but paid for by the middle class, so the rich can stay rich. They will never 'lead to Socialism' and they're never intended to either.
I agree that what is happening by many of the Democrat presidential is bribery to get votes. But you apparently don't understand what is happening in left-wing governments, like in California.
Medicare and Medicaid are two social insurance programs for two different groups run by the government.
Left-wing Democrats running for President want the government to take over healthcare for all. That will make healthcare coverage completely socialist. That is just one example of how it leads to socialism as the government controls more and more of our lives as they take away our options since the doctors, nurses, and all employees in hospitals get paid by the government, which means government control. That is socialism. That is why I will be voting against those candidates and the whole Democrat party.
annatar1914 wrote:A example of a gradual Socialism that goes like my earlier example I used except over a period of time is Fabian Socialism/Reformist Socialism, but again, nothing in America is Socialist, at all, period.History of the socialist movement in the United States
Socialism in the United States has been composed of many tendencies, often in important disagreements with each other as it has included utopian socialists, social democrats, democratic socialists, communists, Trotskyists and anarchists. The socialist movement in the United States has historically been relatively weak. Unlike socialist parties in Europe, Canada and Oceania, a major social democratic party never materialized in the United States and the socialist movement remains marginal, "almost unique in its powerlessness among the Western democracies".
In November 2013, Socialist Alternative (SA) candidate Kshama Sawant was elected to Position 2 of the Seattle City Council. Sawant was the first socialist on the council in recent memory. Philip Locker, a national organizer for SA, says it "was a watershed moment for the socialist movement across the country".
Bernie Sanders, current Senator from Vermont and 2020 candidate for President, describes himself as a democratic socialist. Sanders served as the at-large representative for the state of Vermont before being elected to the Senate in 2006. In a 2013 interview with Politico, radio host Thom Hartmann, whose nationally syndicated radio show draws 2.75 million listeners a week, affirmed his position as a democratic socialist. Sanders has been credited with reviving the American socialist movement by bringing it into the mainstream public view for the 2016 presidential election. With the election of Donald Trump, the DSA soared to 25,000 dues-paying members and SA at least 30 percent. Some DSA members had emerged in local races in states like Illinois and Georgia. Subscribers to the socialist quarterly magazine Jacobin doubled in four months following the election to 30,000.
According to a November 2017 YouGov poll, a majority of Americans aged 21 to 29 prefer socialism to capitalism and believe that the American economic system is working against them. In the same month, 15 members of the DSA were elected to various local and state governmental positions around the country in the 2017 elections.
In June 2018, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a member of the DSA, won the Democratic primary in New York's 14th congressional district, defeating the incumbent Democratic Caucus Chair Joe Crowley in what was described as the biggest upset victory of the 2018 midterm-election season. She was elected to the House of Representatives in November 2018.
According to Gallup, socialism has gained popularity within the Democratic Party. As of 2018, 57% of Democratic-leaning respondents viewed socialism positively as opposed to 53% in 2016. The perception of capitalism among Democratic-leaning voters has also seen a decline since the 2016 presidential election from 56% to 47%. 16% of Republican-leaning voters and 37% of American adults overall had a positive view of socialism in the 2018 poll, compared with 71% and 56% holding a positive view of capitalism, respectively. A 2019 Harris Poll found that socialism is more popular with women than men, with 55% of women between the ages of 18 and 54 preferring to live in a socialist society. A majority of men surveyed in the poll chose capitalism over socialism.[
On April 2, 2019, four members of the DSA won run-off elections in Chicago while two others retained or won their seat in the February election, bringing the total number to six socialists on the council. Socialists control twelve percent of Chicago's city council power which Jacobin managing editor Micah Uetricht states in The Guardian that it is further evidence of a "socialist surge" in the United States and "the largest socialist electoral victory in modern American history".https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... ted_States