- 04 Jun 2019 04:27
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So they say. Have they taken out a carrier from 900 miles away with a conventional warhead? No. Talk is cheap.
Yes, but you don't suspect that defense contractors are milking the DoD for change orders due to oversights in the original statement of work documents, and that Trump isn't having any of it. Trump has apparently fooled you into thinking he's going to revert to steam catapults, which is what he needs you to believe. He also needs the shareholders of the defense contractors to believe that, because if their earnings fall behind for even one quarter (something Trump IS willing to do), their stock price will fall far further than the money they are overcharging the US government. Contractors will relent, and Trump will go with electric catapults. It's just the new way the game is played.
So what? Not everybody is woke SJW bed wetter.
That's not the point of Trump's remarks, which he cannot make obvious to you. It's just a negotiating tactic to get contractors to stop overcharging on change orders.
That's close to my point. The issue is that they don't actually need the EMALS systems on Nimitz class ships, although they would help increase the service life of the new F-35s. Steam releases immense thrust initially and tapers off in a kind of log normal fashion. EMALSs can start at a slower rate and accelerate rapidly in a linear fashion (why electric cars often out accelerate gasoline cars), reducing the "jerk" or 3rd derivative of acceleration--thereby improving the service life of the new fighters. However, contractors make a lot of money on change orders and they abuse the shit out of that stuff. Trump understands that stuff implicitly, because that's what happens in heavy construction too. Playing the fool is a great negotiating tactic in those circumstances. Trump can simply slow down the work for a few quarters and hit their stock prices hard by saying batshit crazy things like this. He saved a lot of money on the new Air Force One project with that sort of thing too.
It is just fine. The issue is whether or not contractors will stop abusing the shit out of the change order system.
None of that is germane. Contracts get written, and if there is any oversight in the contract it gets corrected with a change order that is usually billed at an astronomical rate. The best negotiating tactic in that situation is to play the fool. It's clearly working.
Suntzu wrote:China has a ballistic missile that will take out a moving carrier from 900 miles away with a conventional warhead.
So they say. Have they taken out a carrier from 900 miles away with a conventional warhead? No. Talk is cheap.
Beren wrote:Someone's use of language isn't evidence of political in/competence, it's evidence of his/her way of thinking. If someone uses coherent language, I suspect his way of thinking is coherent too, if he or she doesn't, then I suspect the opposite.
Yes, but you don't suspect that defense contractors are milking the DoD for change orders due to oversights in the original statement of work documents, and that Trump isn't having any of it. Trump has apparently fooled you into thinking he's going to revert to steam catapults, which is what he needs you to believe. He also needs the shareholders of the defense contractors to believe that, because if their earnings fall behind for even one quarter (something Trump IS willing to do), their stock price will fall far further than the money they are overcharging the US government. Contractors will relent, and Trump will go with electric catapults. It's just the new way the game is played.
Godstud wrote:Trump is a prolofic{sic} liar, a misogynist, and a person who mocks handicapped people.
So what? Not everybody is woke SJW bed wetter.
Politics_Observer wrote:If I was Trump, I would listen to the Navy commanders and get their opinions on it.
That's not the point of Trump's remarks, which he cannot make obvious to you. It's just a negotiating tactic to get contractors to stop overcharging on change orders.
BigSteve wrote:The EMALS is already used on new construction ships. There's not a single thing wrong with the steam systems, so there's really no reason to not keep those systems intact where they are. Employment of the EMALS should be on new carriers which are built...
That's close to my point. The issue is that they don't actually need the EMALS systems on Nimitz class ships, although they would help increase the service life of the new F-35s. Steam releases immense thrust initially and tapers off in a kind of log normal fashion. EMALSs can start at a slower rate and accelerate rapidly in a linear fashion (why electric cars often out accelerate gasoline cars), reducing the "jerk" or 3rd derivative of acceleration--thereby improving the service life of the new fighters. However, contractors make a lot of money on change orders and they abuse the shit out of that stuff. Trump understands that stuff implicitly, because that's what happens in heavy construction too. Playing the fool is a great negotiating tactic in those circumstances. Trump can simply slow down the work for a few quarters and hit their stock prices hard by saying batshit crazy things like this. He saved a lot of money on the new Air Force One project with that sort of thing too.
Godstud wrote:@BigSteve I already showed a source that identifies why the EMALS system is superior. I guess if you ignore that, then steam really is just fine.
It is just fine. The issue is whether or not contractors will stop abusing the shit out of the change order system.
Beren wrote:The only thing he seems to know about it is that it has reliability issues, but it's the system of the future anyway.
None of that is germane. Contracts get written, and if there is any oversight in the contract it gets corrected with a change order that is usually billed at an astronomical rate. The best negotiating tactic in that situation is to play the fool. It's clearly working.
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