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late wrote:There is a mandated oath that requires a Senator to promise to be impartial.

No there is not. Senators promise to represent the people that vote them into office.

late wrote:McConnell has said more than once he has no intention of being impartial.

McConnell was just being honest, unlike the Democrats, many of which got re-elected on their promise to impeach the President and then claimed they were saddened to do it. But some of those were seen celebrating after they voted to impeach. I would not say those Democrats were impartial. I would say the Democrats were biased and angry until they voted to impeach the President.
#15059013
"Nancy Pelosi will go down as the least successful speaker of the House in the history of our nation. She has done nothing.” Impeached President Trump

Bullshit …… she impeached your ass Fatso ………… That will be a big fat * next to your name …. forever :) .
By Rich
#15059016
jimjam wrote:Impeached President Trump

This is madness. You talk about impeachment as if its something to be ashamed of. Impeachment by the Democratic controlled House of Representatives should be a badge of honour for Trump. Republicans should place any Republican President who hasn't been impeached who faces a Democratic majority under deep suspicion. Deep suspicion that he has sold out to Cultural Marxism. No if I was a right wing American Republican party supporter, the question I'd be asking of Trump is why did take it so long.
By Rich
#15059643
I think I now understand Pelosi's game. Why did she delay the sending of the articles of impeachment only to then engage in the humiliating climbing down of back down? I think her motivation all along has been to protect Biden and stop Sanders. She wanted to hold up the whole process, to ensure that if "Come to Daddy" Joe Biden's corruption was further exposed, he has already sown up the nomination.

What's so bad about Sanders? The problem is he's Jewish. What's wrong with that? The problem is that it makes it very difficult to do the kind of character assassination done on Jeremy Corbyn. You can't really accuse Sanders of being an "anti-Semite". And be under no illusion if you thought a Jeremy Corbyn Prime ministership would be bad for Israel, a Sanders presidency would be much much worse. it doesn't matter that Sanders has always sought to avoid enraging the Zionist lobby. Its pretty clear he would be not be doing what real Zionists want.
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Rich wrote:I think I now understand Pelosi's game. Why did she delay the sending of the articles of impeachment only to then engage in the humiliating climbing down of back down? I think her motivation all along has been to protect Biden and stop Sanders. She wanted to hold up the whole process, to ensure that if "Come to Daddy" Joe Biden's corruption was further exposed, he has already sown up the nomination.

What's so bad about Sanders? The problem is he's Jewish. What's wrong with that? The problem is that it makes it very difficult to do the kind of character assassination done on Jeremy Corbyn. You can't really accuse Sanders of being an "anti-Semite". And be under no illusion if you thought a Jeremy Corbyn Prime ministership would be bad for Israel, a Sanders presidency would be much much worse. it doesn't matter that Sanders has always sought to avoid enraging the Zionist lobby. Its pretty clear he would be not be doing what real Zionists want.


What is Bad about Sanders, is his policies. They are too extreme and trans-formative and he can't answer how to pay for them with out heavy taxing and destroying the good economy we already have now.
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By Drlee
#15059653
I love Sanders. He would be good for the country. Too bad he is not electable. It has nothing to do with being Jewish. It has everything to do with the word "socialist".

There is an outside chance that he could squeak in because evangelicals are in love with Israel these days but I think not. Right now I do not see who can beat Trump especially after he makes his "I was exonerated" stadium tour.

He will not be removed from office, of course, and this whole thing will simply be an academic issue for students in the future. He is guilty as sin but that does not matter to the republicans. They don't do integrity anymore.

Finfinder will be shown to be right by the way on one point. The economy is heading for a huge fall. The stock market is way overvalued as is residential and commercial real estate. So whoever is the president next time will have that with which to deal. We are simply overdue a correction. I am loving on my cash these days. Blackjack can cover this better than I can.
By Rich
#15059657
If I had a vote in a Sanders / Trump election, I would very probably vote Sanders. Sanders has an appeal to many of the Midwest Obama-Trump voters that were so crucial to Trump's electoral college victory. The fear with Sanders is not that he is unelectable but that if given a chance to go up against Trump, he just might win. For a significant proportion of both the deep state and opinion formers, the position of Sanders on the libertarian - nationalise everything spectrum is of secondary importance to his willingness to do Israel's dirty work in the Middle East.
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Drlee wrote:I love Sanders. He would be good for the country. Too bad he is not electable. It has nothing to do with being Jewish. It has everything to do with the word "socialist".


So, you believe the best thing for America is for our President to be a Socialist?

How bizarre...
#15059662
Hindsite wrote:No there is not

Yes, there is.

I solemnly swear (or affirm) that in all things appertaining to the trial of ____, now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws, so help me God.


;)
#15059664
Fascinating that any touted Republicans who are against taxing and spending would support Sanders. Nothing would topple an economy faster ( which is "a broken clock is right twice a day" theory) than any Democrat policies.
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By Drlee
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@BigSteve So, you believe the best thing for America is for our President to be a Socialist?

How bizarre...


Not unless you take a very shallow view of American politics as most voter do.

Pay attention., There will be a test.

Sanders is not a classic socialist. He calls himself a democratic socialist. In any other country he would not even be see as particularly left wing. I actually look at what he proposes and all of his ideas would be seen as centrist in any European country. Maybe even a tad right of center by their standards.

The republican party has moved way to the right. Not on economic issues. It is just another big spending, non paying liberal party in that regard. It is right on social issues though.

The democratic party is a right of center party. It wants to spend just as much but it wants to spend it on the middle and lower classes in the form of enhanced services. Bu European standards the US Democratic party is pretty right of center.

What Bernie can do is force both parties to compromise. They have to bring legislation that does not feather either nest. He can force corporate money to the background and make the parties work more for votes than for cash. Most importantly he can force the parties to require the people with money to pay the bills. This will not hurt them. The great US dynastic families got rich in the days of tax rates as high as 90%.

So I will not play labels with you. If you want to discuss politics in the real world I am ready for you to start trying.

I already said that Bernie was not electable. There is one chance for him. That is if he can run on how bad Trump is as a person. Not a very big chance. Trump's followers are besotted with him. If a democrat had done anything like what Trump has done they would be taking to the streets. Unfortunately integrity is not much of a thing anymore.

Fascinating that any touted Republicans who are against taxing and spending would support Sanders.


The supported Trump who spent without taxing. I just checked my wallet. I have five credit cards that give me a total of over $120,000.00 I could spend today. It appear that if I was a Trump supporter I would think it would be wise to do so.
#15059669
We are talking about Bernies Sanders verses Trump and you haven't made an argument, that Republicans should support Sanders over Trump. You also can't name policies by Trump that are the center piece of his campaign that will significantly add the the debt.
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By Drlee
#15059671
You also can't name policies by Trump that are the center piece of his campaign that will significantly add the the debt.


Uh. What? :eek:

Really guy. That is not even worth an answer.
#15059678
Drlee wrote:So I will not play labels with you.


Of course you won't. Instead, you'll just keep massaging the meanings of those labels to suit your whim.

Knock yourself out...

If you want to discuss politics in the real world I am ready for you to start trying.


You're not interested in a discussion. You're interested in insisting that people view things only your way and in being a grammar nazi...

I already said that Bernie was not electable.


Whether he can be elected or not has no bearing on the fact that you want a socialist as President. You said he was a socialist and that he would be good for the country.

Nice work...

There is one chance for him. That is if he can run on how bad Trump is as a person. Not a very big chance.


That's because Trump's not a "bad person".

He's uncouth, he's brash, he says what's on his mind and has a smokin' economy.

Now that I think of it, yeah, I guess that would qualify as "bad" to a liberal...

Trump's followers are besotted with him.


Not unlike those who voted for Obama because he, like them, was black, and for no other reason.

You really need to wrap your head around the fact that those of us who support Trump do not agree with and support everything he does. It's stupid for you to believe that and you should stop doing it...

If a democrat had done anything like what Trump has done they would be taking to the streets. Unfortunately integrity is not much of a thing anymore.


You have exactly no evidence you can point to which suggests that you're correct...

The supported Trump who spent without taxing. I just checked my wallet. I have five credit cards that give me a total of over $120,000.00 I could spend today. It appear that if I was a Trump supporter I would think it would be wise to do so.


"The supported Trump who spent without taxing." What the fuck does that even mean? That's not even a proper sentence.

And "It appear that if I was a Trump supporter..."??

English much?

See, I can do it, too.

Oh, and no one cares how much you can spend on five credit cards today. When you can spend $120K with one get back to me...
By Rich
#15059681
BigSteve wrote:You really need to wrap your head around the fact that those of us who support Trump do not agree with and support everything he does.

Indeed I'm suspect many Trump supporters don't think he's done anywhere near enough to control both illegal or legal immigration. What are they meant to do? Cast a protest vote for Elizabeth open borders Warren?
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Finfinder wrote:Fascinating that any touted Republicans who are against taxing and spending would support Sanders. Nothing would topple an economy faster ( which is "a broken clock is right twice a day" theory) than any Democrat policies.


Republicans have never actually acted on their stated desire for fiscal responsibility. Deficits have always gone up under Republican administrations. Only idiots believe the GOP actually cares about reducing the deficit or balancing the budget.

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Not like the budget deficit matters, because that's a misrepresentation of sovereign debt being equivalent to a household budget. GOP members are either too stupid to understand this because they grew up on right wing media, effectively drinking their own Kool-Aid, or willingly misrepresenting this because they know their base will gobble up their bullshit.

No Republican has ever said we don't have money for the military though. Let's spend another $1.5 trillion on a fighter jet that kills our pilots lmbo. That's a much better use of our money than healthcare. Oh, and the endless wars that the GOP loves to start. We have money for that, nobody ever assumes there is a limit to money spent on pointless wars that give us nothing.

But at the end of the day the GOP stand for two things and two things only: Raping children and giving money to billionaires. Jim Jordan is a child rapist, and that is why he was put on the Impeachment Hearing Committee. The Hastert Rule demands that a child rapist represent the GOP in all matters.
#15059685
BigSteve wrote:....You said he was a socialist and that he would be good for the country.


No. @Drlee was very clear that Sanders was not socialist, and even described him as centrist compared to most politicians in the West.

Many of Sander’s policies would be good for the country, and have already been adopted by most developed countries.

I also think Drlee is correct when he claims that Sanders will not be elected because so many US voters incorrectly believe that Sanders is socialist.
#15059691
Drlee wrote:Uh. What? :eek:

Really guy. That is not even worth an answer.



Not surprised because you rarely if ever make an argument when confronted. I'm just trying to figure out why you are so inconsistent. Why won't you make an attempt (as a registered Republican and a conservative) to argue why Bernie Sanders is a better choice than Trump. How exactly will Bernie Sanders policies benefit the economy? You yourself said the economy was going to crash so you should have good reason for Sanders, please explain.

@SpecialOlympian
I actually agree with a lot of what you said. You should direct that to Drle he is the Republican I'm not a Republican. I'm a realist and in the end we get 2 choices none are perfect and none will ever accomplish 100% of our wishes. I don't pretend that they can when making an argument for who to support just the one that has the possibility to accomplish the most.
#15059702
Pants-of-dog wrote:No. @Drlee was very clear that Sanders was not socialist, and even described him as centrist compared to most politicians in the West.


Drlee has never been clear about anything...

Many of Sander’s policies would be good for the country, and have already been adopted by most developed countries.


What policies are those?

I also think Drlee is correct when he claims that Sanders will not be elected because so many US voters incorrectly believe that Sanders is socialist.


Sanders won't be elected, but not because he's a socialist. Sanders won't be elected because he's a fuckin' lunatic with a cardiac problem...
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