late wrote:The first step now, and in the 1800s, was to disenfranchise Black people. If Trump wins, they will finish the job.
The Republicans were founded to abolish slavery. Pushed for the 15th Amendment--at gun point no less. Pushed for civil rights legislation for 100 years, and finally got it through in 1964 with a bit of help from Northern Democrats against Southern Democrats. Today, Republicans gerrymander Democrat districts to include more blacks so that not only will blacks be able to vote, but they can win and retain seats in Congress with black Congressman and Congresswomen. Maybe Virginia's black face Governor Northam will re-introduce Jim Crow. It certainly won't be Republicans doing it. Trump passed the First Step Act (prison sentencing reform), got funding for traditionally black colleges, and has driven black unemployment to the lowest levels in US history (largely by raiding workplaces that hire illegal aliens, and making sure those jobs go to blacks rather than illegal aliens).
Patrickov wrote:However, neither side seem interested in making arguments around events and points, and rather focus their arguments around personal attacks, with the pro-Republican / pro-Trump side even more so.
The Republican base won't tolerate the slanders and libels anymore. That's to say that they don't tolerate Republican politicians who simply take it on the chin. Most of the places blacks live and face problems with the government or police are run almost exclusively by the Democratic party. Blacks vote for the people who oppress them, and they are responsible for their own choices at the ballot box. The absurd idea that Republicans somehow come into areas governed by Democrats and somehow convince the police controlled by Democratic mayors to go out and get black people and so forth is positively ludicrous. The idea that the Voting Rights Act is somehow to protect Democratic districts from Republicans is similarly patently ludicrous. Democrats run the entire electioneering machine in those districts.
Rancid wrote:The OP seems to be implying the Democrats don't cheat. The reality is that Democrats simply need to learn how to cheat better.
They're great at it. The problem they are facing is that they cannot explain why police forces in cities controlled by Democrats for generations are somehow oppressing black citizens. Somehow this must be the fault of Republicans. If the number of polling places in areas utterly controlled by the Democratic party declines, somehow this must be because Republicans have convinced the Democrats who run the show in these vicinities to close polling places. It's frankly over the rainbow.
The Democrats are going to lose, because Trump promised and delivered on something the majority of voters have wanted for 20+ years. The Democratic reaction has been to promise everything to everybody on the one hand and bash Trump the rest of the time. The over the top response to Trump has been basically a loss of credibility for the Democratic party. @late simply cannot accept that Trump is likely to win because he is simply more popular in a larger swath of the country.
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