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Yes, however, even without testing we would know because we would see a significant uptick in deaths of respiratory illnesses over the coming weeks/months. It's a lagging indicator of course, and horrible because it means we will have delayed how long it takes for taking more preventative measures, but still, we would know. You simply have normalize deaths due to respiratory illnesses from Dec 2019 until now, against death prior to Dec 2019. Super easy math problem that can be done in Excel.


You see that is the thing. We are in the midst of flu season that has as a feature a resurgence of Influenza A. To we very well might not have noticed a moderate uptick. Look at previous years is comparing apples and oranges. We are sensitized and somewhat vigilant now. We will see what turns up.

It appears that this AM the CDC has awakened and decided to push test kits out to the localities. Further, some states and localities are deciding to take their own testing measures.

He also failed to get ObamaCare repealed, but a big chunk of the blame goes to John McCain.


Oh please. Do you really think the republicans wanted to repeal Obamacare? The fix was in. But even if it wasn't thank God for John McCain. There are a great many people alive today who would have been dead if Obamacare had been repealed. Especially so since the republicans had not offered anything in place of it except some murmurings about the free market.

@blackjack21 blackjack21 wrote:
If the government is supposedly screwing it up, why would you want them to have complete control? Italy has a national health service and they have a Coronavirus outbreak with 1100 cases and 29 fatalities. By contrast, the US has half that number and no fatalities.


This is the argument we will hear in the right wing media soon if not already. It is a preposterous question asked by a non-medical person but even though foolish, will resonate with the mouth breathers.

Trump is not responsible for what happens in Wuhan, China. When the CDC advised him to suspend travel from China, Trump obliged and was called a racist by Democrats who then went on to say that we mustn't become racist as a result of a viral outbreak in China


I missed this. Please show me the democratic party statement that stopping travel was racist. This is just another right wing talking point with no basis in fact. Please spare yourself googling for on democrat who may have said something like this. We are not so stupid as to accept that as the democratic party position.
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Rugoz wrote:You have a Trump admin official refusing to deny that the virus is a hoax. Nobody in his right mind would tolerate such pathetic people in power.

The virus is not a hoax. The Democratic Party's response is a hoax. It's just more lying and bullshit from them at a time when it really is not needed and not helpful.

Rugoz wrote:Italy has tested 18.5k people. I would be careful with pointing fingers given the US has already 4 community infections.

Washington State reported a fatality, but there are scant details as yet. It will get worse before it gets better.

Rugoz wrote:What might help the US is that less people use public transit. Not sure how relevant that is though.

Which means it will probably affect poor people more.

jimjam wrote:It is perfectly clear that impeached president Trump's primary concern with the Corona virus is his own skin. Clear as day. I give him credit though. He has actually made a virus into a political, not a health, issue. I suspect that before this is over that Donald, Rush and Sean will be able to discern Liberal virus' from conservative virus'.

The Democrats decided to politicize it to hide the fact that their presidential debate was a disaster. Open borders is a bad idea. Ensuring vaccination and good health before travelling was a significant factor in wiping out many diseases.

jimjam wrote:I never said that you said such a thing :lol: …….. but this is clearly the propagandist spin emitting from Rush, Sean, you and impeached president Trump.

Rush has also criticized Trump for having Obama holdovers. Rush told Trump personally that he needed to get rid of Obama holders at the outset of his administration. Rush says that Trump winced at the idea. Trump is like Rodney King. He wants to get along with everybody.

Drlee wrote:Oh please. Do you really think the republicans wanted to repeal Obamacare? The fix was in.

No. That's why so many house Republicans got bounced in 2018. The fraud was exposed.

Drlee wrote:There are a great many people alive today who would have been dead if Obamacare had been repealed.

Rubbish. People get treated at county hospitals all the time. There is nobody in the US without access to healthcare.

Drlee wrote:This is the argument we will hear in the right wing media soon if not already. It is a preposterous question asked by a non-medical person but even though foolish, will resonate with the mouth breathers.

Everybody is a mouth breather.
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A few days ago our Cultists were getting all excited over how China was not being transparent, and not responding fast enough.

Of course, that stopped when Trump did the same thing.

Unfortunately, for us, China got on top of the situation. and we won't, not for months.
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Rubbish. People get treated at county hospitals all the time. There is nobody in the US without access to healthcare.


I have disproved this so many times that I simply refuse to tear into it again.

Needless to say that when someone decides to delay seeking care because they can't afford it, they sometimes die. And sometimes kill others doing it.
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late wrote:A few days ago our Cultists were getting all excited over how China was not being transparent, and not responding fast enough.

Of course, that stopped when Trump did the same thing.

Unfortunately, for us, China got on top of the situation. and we won't, not for months.



Again, too early to make a conclusion. Wait until the Chinese resume work and see if the virus spread again.

If Americans do not trust their own System, the Chinese have plenty of reason to trust even less of their system.

Remember, Americans can easily call out lies of their Government. Chinese can't.
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Rugoz wrote:
But that's exactly what Pompeo was saying with his non-response, that the virus is a hoax.



What presidents did before Trump was let the medical guys run with it, and try to insulate them from politics as much as possible.

Trump got rid of the pandemic teams, didn't listen to the guys that were still there, and is now trying to muzzle them.

Brain dead.
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Someone died. Some Boomer with pre-existing health issues (probably lead brain).

Personally, I don't give a shit about the coronavirus and think it's overblown. But it's great that the Trump administration is using this as an opportunity to demonstrate how paranoiac and incompetent they are. Just lmfao that they can't even admit that the virus is real, and that Trump's main concern is preserving a market index. The right wing media machine is getting in on the act as well, with Rush trying to take as much of his aging Boomer audience with him by echoing the conspiracy.

Also it owns that Trump wants to take away home heating subsidies to fund the CDC. God damn Republicans are such evil rapist shitlords haha.
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SpecialOlympian wrote:Someone died. Some Boomer with pre-existing health issues (probably lead brain).

Personally, I don't give a shit about the coronavirus and think it's overblown. But it's great that the Trump administration is using this as an opportunity to demonstrate how paranoiac and incompetent they are. Just lmfao that they can't even admit that the virus is real, and that Trump's main concern is preserving a market index. The right wing media machine is getting in on the act as well, with Rush trying to take as much of his aging Boomer audience with him by echoing the conspiracy.

Also it owns that Trump wants to take away home heating subsidies to fund the CDC. God damn Republicans are such evil rapist shitlords haha.

Now, the left-wing Democrats have permission from their left-wing fake news media to go into full panic mode.
HalleluYah
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SpecialOlympian wrote:I agree, Hindsite. If the left-wing is this capable of fucking Trump and his administration over then they should do it nonstop until he's out of office.

Perhaps the left-wing Democrats will be fucking themselves out of office.
HalleluYah
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Perhaps the left-wing Democrats will be fucking themselves out of office.


They have already done it. Trump could win and never run a campaign ad. Of course even when they are winning the republicans have to resort to dirty tricks in the election. They just can't help it.
By late
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Patrickov wrote:
For example, harassing whistleblowers and make them die? Coerce people to work and bend figures to justify it?



They bent the curve, and as crowded as their cities are, that wasn't easy.

Your ideology can't changed that, or it's importance.
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jimjam wrote:An effective government invests in public health. Trump has done the reverse, starving the country's medical establishment of the funds needed to respond effectively, while lavishing tax cuts on plutocrats.


Trump closed entry from China a month ago. That was brilliant! That is why the USA has so little Corona.

Using the virus as venom for your hatred of Trump is not nice.------the virus is apolitical. Furthermore left wingers like you are disseminating fear to see if they can bring Trump down. They are the same ones that root for an economic collapse to take Trump out.
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Julian658 wrote:Trump closed entry from China a month ago. That was brilliant! That is why the USA has so little Corona.

Using the virus as venom for your hatred of Trump is not nice.------the virus is apolitical. Furthermore left wingers like you are disseminating fear to see if they can bring Trump down. They are the same ones that root for an economic collapse to take Trump out.

You sound like Baby Rush the master propagandist. "Left wingers" (WTF is a "left winger"? Answer: one half of a simple minded dichotomy designed for simple minded duds for the purpose of giving them something to hate.) are disseminating fear? I don't think so. Someone who offers criticism of Donald's obvious fuck ups and lack of ability for the job he holds is a "left winger" disseminating fear?? Give me a break. Fear and hatred are Donald's two greatest tools. Apparently he is the Chosen One who will protect us from brown people, socialism, each other and toenail fungus.
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