XogGyux wrote:Your site it is some sort of dubious "Slate.com" and not the CDC.
Slate is dubious in that it is a left wing site. It's good that you see the wisdom in doubting the left wing media.
XogGyux wrote:If you kept the same conditions and extended that for a year we would be looking closer to half a million people dying from this shit... and that is under lockdown situations, remove that from the equation and you could have even more.
This is why rioting shouldn't be encouraged by politicians. There is insufficient social distancing among the diseased rioting population.
XogGyux wrote:Seems that most of the rest of the world had an approach that seems to be working.
Asians are used to wearing masks since the early SARS epidemics, and sometimes just to deal with air pollution. They're used to having them on hand. In the US, bureaucrats are just used to telling lies to people and being believed by the masses. Europe still has a higher death rate than the US even with public-funded health systems, and they also faced equipment shortages. Even the ultra-progressive Canada was so generous that it gave PPP to China before Wuhan coronavirus had spread to Canada, and then Canada was short-handed on PPP, because it had also outsourced all of its production to China.
XogGyux wrote:We are paying the price now and we will continue to do so for years.
Some people will pay the price and others will not. Young people do not care about it anymore, because they simply do not believe so many conflicting reports from so many different levels of government, bureaucracy, academia and media. 30-year-old dies of coronavirus after attending Texas ‘COVID-19 party’.
Can asymptomatic people spread the disease or not? Recent thinking has been "no." Also, children rarely seem to have any significant response to infection. So a reasonable conclusion is that it is fine for children to go back to school later this year, but politicians are saying otherwise. Are we dealing with science or politics? It seems very much like the latter.
Wulfschilde wrote:If it's rational to shut the country down to fight the sources of coronavirus, wouldn't 13 times as many deaths mean it would be rational to ban fatty foods?
Potentially, but it seems more like transfats are the bigger problem than animal fats--vegetable shortening, like Crisco, is far worse than animal fat like lard.
XogGyux wrote:Even if for an instant I were to grant you "it is not that lethal" for the sake of argument... the fact is the rest of the world is controlling it, we are not. And this has serious implications for our future trade, economics, politics, etc. The right thing to do is to aggressively control it, if not for public health, if not for our populations' health... at this point it is a global economy/diplomacy nightmare if we end up with a country full of infected citizens that won't be allowed in europe, asia, canada, etc.
But, but, but, but, but.... don't people have a right to riot peacefully?
XogGyux wrote:Genocidal fuck.
Are you suggesting that coronavirus only kills a particular race or ethnicity, or is this your attempt at intensifying your frustrations?
JohnRawls wrote:So uhhh, apparently the only event that caused more deaths for US besides Covid is basically the Civil war and WW2.
Spanish Flu... and other outbreaks. We have a much larger population, so the numbers get skewed. On a population basis, the US has had lots of situations like this. Small pox, polio, etc.
JohnRawls wrote:The older you get, the more problematic it gets.
Same with Wuhan coronavirus. It mostly kills older people; hence, the idiot 30-year old that went to a coronavirus party and died--probably with some sort of inflammatory condition exacerbated by coronavirus.
JohnRawls wrote:We can never fully cure it in most cases. Medicine and science ain't there yet.
This is a very important point, particularly the last sentence.
To his great credit, Trump has moved a regulatory mountain to streamline the production of vaccines and treatments. I'm a little skeptical that an effective covid vaccine can be developed. If so, we may see a future with "common cold" shots along with flu shots.
-- Joe Biden