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#15170751
wat0n wrote:Actually, yes, we don't know if the pattern holds for the whole populations at hand.


That still does not explain how age is relevant to racism in policing.

It would also be interesting to see if there are differences in the patterns of use that may be related to arrests (such as the drugs used or where they are used, for example). It would also be interesting to see what percentage of the differences in overall arrests are directly explained by drug offenses.


Go ahead. Let us know what you find out.

The rest of us will continue with the obvious racial disparity, and the logical explanation of systemic racism.

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@Julian658

What do they say?

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Can policing be reformed or should it be abolished?
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By Julian658
#15170753
late wrote:"If you have integrity, nothing else matters. If you don't have integrity, nothing else matters."

Alan K. Simpson

I apologize, but I am going to sound a little bit like POD.

So you have no argument.
Thanks!

Seriously: YOU and POD run away from the Socratic style dialogue as fast as possible.
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#15170754
Julian658 wrote:
So you have no argument.






"If you have integrity, nothing else matters. If you don't have integrity, nothing else matters."

Alan K. Simpson
By wat0n
#15170755
Pants-of-dog wrote:That still does not explain how age is relevant to racism in policing.


Drug use patterns by race can be radically different by age.

Pants-of-dog wrote:Go ahead. Let us know what you find out.


Nope, you are more than free to do it.

Pants-of-dog wrote:The rest of us will continue with the obvious racial disparity, and the logical explanation of systemic racism.


Clearly, logic isn't your strong suit :lol:

Neither is intellectual honesty, or you'd acknowledge and condemn Cuban systemic racism shown by the treatment of Afro-Cubans by the Cuban State.
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By Julian658
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late wrote:"If you have integrity, nothing else matters. If you don't have integrity, nothing else matters."

Alan K. Simpson

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I am just ribbing you! :lol: :lol:
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By Julian658
#15170762
wat0n wrote:
Neither is intellectual honesty, or you'd acknowledge and condemn Cuban systemic racism shown by the treatment of Afro-Cubans by the Cuban State.

When Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates visited Cuba he discovered that black Cubans were of lower class than Cubans of Spanish ancestry. This after Fidel tried his best to erased racism on the island. The revolution was not equal to all as advertised.
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#15170773
Julian658 wrote:
I am just ribbing you!



It's trolling.

Btw, you endlessly babble the same idiocy, in an attempt to brainwash the weak. At the same time, you lost the House, then the Presidency, and then the Senate.

So are you expecting a different result?
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By Julian658
#15170778
late wrote:It's trolling.

Btw, you endlessly babble the same idiocy, in an attempt to brainwash the weak. At the same time, you lost the House, then the Presidency, and then the Senate.

So are you expecting a different result?

Assuming I am a Trumper is a form of trolling by your part. I think Trump is a narcissist and the type of politician that knows how to BS and say what the rednecks want to hear. He is also classless and you can tell by the type of baroque gold furniture he prefers. He used to be a Democrat and HRC kissed his bottom regularly. I prefer a Republican like our governor Larry Hogan.

When you call me a Trump is a bit like me calling you "compañero" a title better suited for POD and Tainari88.
#15170793
wat0n wrote:Drug use patterns by race can be radically different by age.

Nope, you are more than free to do it.


No. You will not even clarify what your argument is. I am not going to research it for you.

Clearly, logic isn't your strong suit :lol:

Neither is intellectual honesty, or you'd acknowledge and condemn Cuban systemic racism shown by the treatment of Afro-Cubans by the Cuban State.


And now you are devolving into insults.

I guess this conversation is done. Have a good day.

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This is interesting.

A cop kills a man in broad daylight in front of a crowd of cameras and less than half of US citizens think he is guilty.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-america ... und-guilty

This suggests that there is societal support for continued immunity for police brutality and killings.
By wat0n
#15170796
Pants-of-dog wrote:No. You will not even clarify what your argument is. I am not going to research it for you.


I already provided you with some possibilities that would undermine your "reasoning".

Pants-of-dog wrote:And now you are devolving into insults.

I guess this conversation is done. Have a good day.


Sure, logician ;)
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By Drlee
#15170817
@Julian658
By the way, the National Basketball Association (NBA) is 90% black and whites are 65% of the population. That means that the NBA must be racist. Is that correct POD?


No. But it proves you are either a racist or not swift enough to know the difference. Which is it?
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By Julian658
#15170821
Drlee wrote:@Julian658

No. But it proves you are either a racist or not swift enough to know the difference. Which is it?


The left loves to quote that sort of statistics to invoke racism or sexism. I am assuming you know better. The NBA numbers have nothing to do with racism. Just as 99.9% of bricklayers are men-------- that does not mean sexism. However, if CEOs are not 50% men and 50% women then we have sexism. Please feel free to explain, this is confusing.
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By Drlee
#15170823
Explain what? Your straw man? I think you ought to do that. I have no idea what point you are trying to make.
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#15170850
Julian658 wrote:
Assuming I am a Trumper is a form of trolling by your part.



While your trolling implicitly defends him, your intent is disruptive.

You often make claims to NOT be this or that. And your claims as to what you are... are absurd.

Which only leaves the question why, or to put it differently:

"If you have integrity, nothing else matters. If you don't have integrity, nothing else matters."
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By Julian658
#15170868
late wrote:While your trolling implicitly defends him, your intent is disruptive.

You often make claims to NOT be this or that. And your claims as to what you are... are absurd.

Which only leaves the question why, or to put it differently:

"If you have integrity, nothing else matters. If you don't have integrity, nothing else matters."

Ah, you are confused because I am a centrist.
Lefties like you believe all the tenets of the left just as right wingers belief all the tenets of the right. I favor whatever makes sense whether left or right. The best example I can give you is national health insurance which is mostly a left issue. However, you are binary. A bit of fluidity could be useful.

What I do not like about the left is:

Condescending racism of low expectations.
Virtue signaling
The idea that capitalism is evil and hence socialism is a better option.
The inability to reason on certain subjects or been guided by emotions.
Group ID politics. Sadly, now the extreme right ha adopted this in the form of white nationalism.
Promoting victimhood among minorities.


I will say the right has many flaws too:

Inability to provide solutions for the poor.
Lack of compassion. This most severe among libertarians.
Evangelicals (the equivalent of SJWs on the left).
No health plan.
Spending too much money (copied from the left).
Too much of a pro-life stand.
Racism based on ignorance.
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@Julian658

Abot half of all Republicans think Mr. Floyd’s murderer should not have been found guilty.

What do you think?
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By Julian658
#15170924
Pants-of-dog wrote:@Julian658

Abot half of all Republicans think Mr. Floyd’s murderer should not have been found guilty.

What do you think?

He is guilty, that is plain to see. What you are seeing are the effects of extremism. Those that live in an echo chamber cannot see reality.

I do not think Chauvin wanted to kill GF. I think he is just an idiot who perhaps thought he was following protocol. He is likely racist too. But, do not forget that a blonde Nordic looking white man named Tony Timpa died with a white cop's knee to his back for 13 minutes in 2016. The media did not push this story for obvious reasons.

I think many cops are not really that bright and have very poor training.
#15170931
Julian658 wrote:He is guilty, that is plain to see. What you are seeing are the effects of extremism. Those that live in an echo chamber cannot see reality.


Yes, many Republicans are like that.

Do you think right wing media is to blame?
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By Julian658
#15170933
Pants-of-dog wrote:Yes, many Republicans are like that.

Do you think right wing media is to blame?

Honestly, most of the right wingers I have seen have said Chauvin is guilty. However, the extreme ones make up excuses such a Chauvin was going to die of a drug overdose. It does not really matter cops like Chauvin need to be removed.

Right wing media has less influence than left wing media. The latter have the support of Hollywood, celebrities, liberal arts college professors, and even moderate media.
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By Godstud
#15170955
Julian658 wrote:Right wing media has less influence than left wing media. The latter have the support of Hollywood, celebrities, liberal arts college professors, and even moderate media.
You're deluded. Right wing media has been the largest, and Fox News ratings over the last 4 years are proof of that. I guess that wouldn't fit your narrative, though. :knife:
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