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By Julian658
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late wrote:There are no socialist countries.


OK, that is better Tovarish late.

That is the excuse given by the commies when they are reminded that socialism always fails. They always say "that is not socialism".
Watch compañero POD: He says it takes time to reach socialism. Cuba worked at it for 60 plus years and finally gave up. IN 2019 they allowed private property and some businesses.
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By jimjam
#15169439
Tainari88 wrote:I think @jimjam is one of my favorite men in this forum. So, I say jimjam likes my style eh?


this as quite a compliment coming from a very intelligent woman whose values I respect ---------- thank you.

Marriage is a 50-50 deal, for better and worse …….. simple.

My wife is a genius and I tell her, "You may be smarter than me but I have made fewer mistakes ….." :eek:
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By BoogeyMan
#15169440
late wrote:Ahh, from nonexistent to unneeded.

That didn't take long...

Do you have some plan to make the unneeded nonexistent?

Prayer
Only way is change of heart
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By MistyTiger
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Ever since I was in my teens, I realized that many Americans were very jealous of others. Americans care a lot about ego. I am smart. I am hot. I am better than you. You suck if you make me feel less than you for any reason. You suck if you win and I lose during a competition or "game". I never like playing games because I quickly learned that if I wanted to make the other side happy, I would have to be the loser. Americans tend to be sore losers. They will cheat to win if they must.

Americans in my schools liked to say "me Chinese, me so dumb". Some knew I was hard-working and smart and they hated that. Yet some would ask me for help or answers on homework. They wanted to make me feel inferior. This is not something that is easily forgotten or forgiven. I had to separate myself from the toxic crowd to finally find myself again, the self I had when I was a child, before school made me lose my identity. I did forgive by telling myself that those country bumpkins are dumb and do not know any better.

My parents were raised in Taiwan. They do not have such an egocentric attitude. They respect their teachers and parents. They pay attention. They work hard. They think about doing well in school to bring honor to their family. They had no time for games. There was no time to discriminate between winners and losers. If you are busy working, you are too busy to think about ego. My parents had a hard time understanding the hostility against them at first. Life in Taiwan was slower paced and less angry. The Taiwanese love to eat and chat in the marketplace. The way they bargain is a lot like how Mexicans bargain in Mexico.

I cannot fully understand why people have to fill themselves with so much hate. I was raised in a loving, peaceful home. I love music, nature, art, movies, literature and family. I like to see the beauty in life. I like to laugh and enjoy life. Why should I fill my short life with hate? :?:
By late
#15169446
BoogeyMan wrote:
Prayer

Only way is change of heart



The only way is to figure things out, and then fix them if they're busted...
By wat0n
#15169447
MistyTiger wrote:Ever since I was in my teens, I realized that many Americans were very jealous of others. Americans care a lot about ego. I am smart. I am hot. I am better than you. You suck if you make me feel less than you for any reason. You suck if you win and I lose during a competition or "game". I never like playing games because I quickly learned that if I wanted to make the other side happy, I would have to be the loser. Americans tend to be sore losers. They will cheat to win if they must.

Americans in my schools liked to say "me Chinese, me so dumb". Some knew I was hard-working and smart and they hated that. Yet some would ask me for help or answers on homework. They wanted to make me feel inferior. This is not something that is easily forgotten or forgiven. I had to separate myself from the toxic crowd to finally find myself again, the self I had when I was a child, before school made me lose my identity. I did forgive by telling myself that those country bumpkins are dumb and do not know any better.


Unfortunately, that attitude is far from an American thing. It seems to be present pretty much everywhere.

What I do find new is the levels of polarization you can see in the US and the West in general.
By late
#15169448
Julian658 wrote:
commies...



If your scam was reduced to one word, that would be it.

Problem is, it has not a thing to do with reality. It's just the same brain dead propaganda you repeat again, and again.
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By BoogeyMan
#15169450
late wrote:The only way is to figure things out, and then fix them if they're busted...

True dat
Its just you cant change the direction society is headed by yourself
By late
#15169455
BoogeyMan wrote:
True dat

Its just you cant change the direction society is headed by yourself



That's why we have movements, organisations, governments and other stuff.
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By BoogeyMan
#15169457
Prolly number one region that hates America the most would obvioisly be Middle East Im glad Biden is withdrawing troops from Afghanistan didnt gain nothing from the war
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By Julian658
#15169466
MistyTiger wrote:Ever since I was in my teens, I realized that many Americans were very jealous of others. Americans care a lot about ego. I am smart. I am hot. I am better than you. You suck if you make me feel less than you for any reason. You suck if you win and I lose during a competition or "game". I never like playing games because I quickly learned that if I wanted to make the other side happy, I would have to be the loser. Americans tend to be sore losers. They will cheat to win if they must.

Americans in my schools liked to say "me Chinese, me so dumb". Some knew I was hard-working and smart and they hated that. Yet some would ask me for help or answers on homework. They wanted to make me feel inferior. This is not something that is easily forgotten or forgiven. I had to separate myself from the toxic crowd to finally find myself again, the self I had when I was a child, before school made me lose my identity. I did forgive by telling myself that those country bumpkins are dumb and do not know any better.

My parents were raised in Taiwan. They do not have such an egocentric attitude. They respect their teachers and parents. They pay attention. They work hard. They think about doing well in school to bring honor to their family. They had no time for games. There was no time to discriminate between winners and losers. If you are busy working, you are too busy to think about ego. My parents had a hard time understanding the hostility against them at first. Life in Taiwan was slower paced and less angry. The Taiwanese love to eat and chat in the marketplace. The way they bargain is a lot like how Mexicans bargain in Mexico.

I cannot fully understand why people have to fill themselves with so much hate. I was raised in a loving, peaceful home. I love music, nature, art, movies, literature and family. I like to see the beauty in life. I like to laugh and enjoy life. Why should I fill my short life with hate? :?:


I believe you care way too much about what others may think of you. I suggest you read the Four Agreements so you can be a much happier woman.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353147426425?_ ... 4bEALw_wcB

The booklet is only 4.99 USD and you can read it is 45 minutes
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By Tainari88
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jimjam wrote:this as quite a compliment coming from a very intelligent woman whose values I respect ---------- thank you.

Marriage is a 50-50 deal, for better and worse …….. simple.

My wife is a genius and I tell her, "You may be smarter than me but I have made fewer mistakes ….." :eek:


My husband has beautiful manners, is more of a social butterfly than I am. He is also a better listener and is more cautious about everything. He also is more grounded than I am.

He is very great with his heart. A big heart. He is a bright man. But he doesn't have a drop of arrogance. Being humble and modest and respectful is for me the greatest qualities. Humane and kind.

I think the worst kind of man is someone selfish, violent, disrespectful, ignorant and who LIES all the time. Also some materialistic fool that thinks money is everything. And someone who can't work. Lazy and incredibly superificial. That would be the worst man for me in the world. The guy with those qualities. I think a few men on PoFo are like that. Lol.
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By MistyTiger
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Julian658 wrote:I believe you care way too much about what others may think of you. I suggest you read the Four Agreements so you can be a much happier woman.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353147426425?_ ... 4bEALw_wcB

The booklet is only 4.99 USD and you can read it is 45 minutes


I was always aware of my surroundings even as a baby. I did not choose this life. It chose me. Fate made me Asian.

You sound a bit condescending btw.
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By Potemkin
#15169493
Julian658 wrote:I believe you care way too much about what others may think of you. I suggest you read the Four Agreements so you can be a much happier woman.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353147426425?_ ... 4bEALw_wcB

The booklet is only 4.99 USD and you can read it is 45 minutes

The Dark Side of The Four Agreements
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By blackjack21
#15169495
late wrote:Racism comes in historic waves, this is another one.

The latest trend in hate crimes is attacking Asians. Since the San Francisco DA rarely prosecutes people unless there is a public outcry, Asians and others are demonstrating to prosecute perpetrators. The perpetrators are overwhelmingly black.



Potemkin wrote:But the only way to fundamentally change the world is by an authoritarian use of force.

I don't know. Technology changes things pretty fundamentally.

Tainari88 wrote:I think the worst kind of man is someone selfish, violent, disrespectful, ignorant and who LIES all the time

How did you come to that conclusion? He he!
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By Stevex
#15169519
Cartertonian wrote:
The World is too complex to attribute cause to single factors, but in my view a significant causal factor has been the internet itself.

In 'life-before-internet', if you wanted information you had to go to a library - or at least a bookshop - and the overwhelming majority of books you could read were written by people with some degree of expertise, knowledge and understanding of the subject and were predominantly well-researched and referenced back to definitive, seminal information sources.

These days, you can read and/or watch any number of opinionated talking heads pontificating about any topic, with no evidence of their expertise, knowledge and understanding, nor any of their opinions being well-researched. But if they are saying what people want to hear, many people will accept it at face value, without critique.

We seem to have an unconscious appetite for confirmation bias and a resistance to counter-evidence, that has grown exponentially along with the internet.


All very good points but I believe I have identified some critical factors in explaining this extreme tribalism.
1. Gratuitous emotionalism.
2. Lack of critical thinking skills.
3. And, yes, the comfort of confirmation bias and groupthink.


Cartertonian wrote:Thus polarity and binary thought are becoming more widespread. When you consider that in politics, both here and in the US, adversarialism is at the very core of the entire system, then an electorate that is in most cases unwittingly becoming more partisan will feed back into that political system and compound the polarity.


This binary thinking is a curiosity to me.
It is the sort of thing you might find in a debating team competition.
It is also something that would indicate a lack of intellectual capacity in some circumstances.

I avoid devil's advocacy. Some people don't understand the meaning of 'discussion'.
I hope people here prefer sharing ideas rather than being interested in point-scoring.
Tell me if I have come to the wrong place. ;)

Cartertonian wrote:The World really isn't black and white, left and right or cleaved neatly into any other 50/50 division, but our political systems persist in presenting choices to their electorates as if it were. Add in the aforementioned, uncurated 'information explosion' and it's no wonder societies are becoming more divided and internal tensions increasing.


But what about personal responsibility?
It is a decision to behave and think as an emotionally deranged barbarian rather than a rational, objective individual.

Cartertonian wrote:And 'hate' itself is an essential component of tribal solidarity, so if you identify with one tribe and fear incursions from another, teaching/allowing yourself to 'hate' the other tribe is a regrettable but inevitable consequence borne of our primitive instincts


But, as I said, regressing to a tribalistic mindset is a decision, surely.
It isn't inevitable.
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By Stevex
#15169521
Tainari88 wrote:I am also in style from a different culture Wat0n. I don't care that there are a bunch of men from Anglospheres in here who want dry British style arguments. I am Puerto Rican in style. That is where I grew up, and being dry and unemotional and stating things without some art and passion is BORING to me in the extreme.


Perhaps I may have taken a wrong turn and ended up here. :eek:
I am a refugee from another forum that was hyperpartisan and embraced groupthink.
The worse part was that most of those moderating were biased themselves.

I was actually hoping to find a group that was interested in rational discussion with the purpose of mutual growth.

Being passionate and artful is entirely fine by me, but not to the point of misrepresenting the truth as a result of emotional needs.
Seen that in the other forum I escaped from. ;) :lol:

So there is no misunderstanding, you seem perfectly nice.
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By Stevex
#15169524
MistyTiger wrote:
Americans in my schools liked to say "me Chinese, me so dumb". Some knew I was hard-working and smart and they hated that. Yet some would ask me for help or answers on homework. They wanted to make me feel inferior. This is not something that is easily forgotten or forgiven. I had to separate myself from the toxic crowd to finally find myself again, the self I had when I was a child, before school made me lose my identity. I did forgive by telling myself that those country bumpkins are dumb and do not know any better.

My parents were raised in Taiwan. They do not have such an egocentric attitude. They respect their teachers and parents. They pay attention. They work hard. They think about doing well in school to bring honor to their family. They had no time for games. There was no time to discriminate between winners and losers. If you are busy working, you are too busy to think about ego. My parents had a hard time understanding the hostility against them at first. Life in Taiwan was slower paced and less angry. The Taiwanese love to eat and chat in the marketplace. The way they bargain is a lot like how Mexicans bargain in Mexico.

I cannot fully understand why people have to fill themselves with so much hate. I was raised in a loving, peaceful home. I love music, nature, art, movies, literature and family. I like to see the beauty in life. I like to laugh and enjoy life. Why should I fill my short life with hate? :?:


Where I come from, Asian students are respected for their dedication to schooling, and generally speaking, the Asian culture is seen as respectful.
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By Julian658
#15169525
MistyTiger wrote:I was always aware of my surroundings even as a baby. I did not choose this life. It chose me. Fate made me Asian.

You sound a bit condescending btw.

My wife used to be like you. She would say; "I think so and so is is staring at us and giving us dirty kooks, OR think those people dislike us and they are talking about us". I would be right by her and I would have a totally different perception. Then I discovered she was always looking and checking to see what others around her were up to. Meanwhile I was in my own world and did not pay attention. The end result is: If you stare at someone they will probably stare back at you. Lastly, to know they are staring means you were staring first. No need to be so hyperaware.

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