Steve_American wrote:We find ourselves again in a time that try men's souls. Kudos to Tom Paine
The American working class voters have been getting more and more angry ever since Clinton led the Dem Party to turn its back on the workers in favor of the upper-middle class. I think he did it because they have more money than workers do. In this he succeeded, in that the corporate Dems get more money personally than they did before 1990. However, since Clinton left office the Dem have lost ground massively. Sometimes, like with Obama's 1st 2 years they do well, but they failed in those 2 years to keep anywhere near enough campaign promises to appease the anger that the voters have about their massive real (i.e. adjusted for the real inflation rate) economic losses. The result was the 2010 election wipe out at all local, state and national levels. This led to 6 years of gridlock in Congress. This led to Trump being able to lie his way into the Presidency. This not a new thing, many politicians have done it since 1800. Hell, Obama did it.
IMHO, if the voters had known what the next 12 years would be like in 2010, enough of them would have voted for the Dems anyway despite their disappointment with their lack of success in doing things that help them, the voters. That election was a turning point in US History. More and more historians will come to agree with that assessment. As I said, what happened was the voters decided to punish the Dems for their failure to do enough to help them. Including, for bailing out the banksters and worse letting homeowners loose their homes. What they should have done was to vote in more Dems, and especially more Progressive Dems, to get more good things done for them. And of course, to have voted for more Dems at the state level to redistrict the states better for the Dem Party and democracy.
American voters must NOW learn from that example of history, and not decide to punish the Dem Party for not getting more done because of a few US Senators blocking what must be done.
. . . Instead, the voters must vote in primaries for Progressive Dems at all levels and in the general election vote for Dems “no matter who”. This is necessary because about 3 more Dem Party Senators will let Biden do more to protect voting rights and reform the USSC by adding 4 more Justices to it. It will also let Biden pass more bills to help the people and fight climate change.
. . . If too many voters do again what too many did in 2010, the Trumper Repuds will sweep into power and reform laws to keep themselves in power until climate change causes massive disasters that you don't want to experience. This will not end well.
We must not repeat the mistake of 2010. We must try to reverse all the bad effects that flowed from that mistake. Mark my words, failure is not an option. Failure will lead to disasters so massive you don't want to even imagine they are possible. So, just suck it up and vote into office enough Dems to get them back into power sufficient to get more done (like they were in 2009 until Sen. Kennedy died). This is especially true at the state level, because the Constitution gives the states a lot of power that should have already fixed with reforms. Foe example, the original Constitution had the state legislatures voting directly for US Senators, the states soon changed that to a direct vote of the people, and then the Constitution was amended to lock that in. In the same way, we need to lock in the idea that the winner of the election wins and state legislatures can't decide to have someone else win.
IMHO, trying to do this is by far the best option you have.
Well, your humble opinion is wrong as usual.
You worry about bailing out "banksters", meanwhile your progressive wing of attorney generals bail out murderers, those who commit assault, rapists and other violent criminals within 48 hours.
You import poverty from the border, unchecked as per federal law set by congress, and yet don't even demand vaccinations or proof of such from them, but demand it for the citizenry at the point of threatening the livelihood of those who don't comply.
Don't lecture anyone on voting rights while you mail out unsolicited ballots, hide prefilled ballots under tables and run them through machines again and again, do 3AM ballot dumps and demand that poll observers stand 60 feet away from election counters to "observe". You democrats, enabled by Marc Elais and the Perkins Coie democrat party law firm, successfully went state by state and changed election law in 2019 through the back door with Secretaries of State and judges changing election laws to your favor, rather than the State Legislatures changing election law as per the U.S. Constitution.
Screw your climate change and health care for all narratives. They're all about redistributing income through government forced demand and mandates, where there is no natural demand from the market.
Four more SCOTUS judges to get your way? I think not. But at least you show your iron-fisted tyrannical side yet again.
You are correct - the 17th amendment changed the state legislatures from voting for senators to a popular vote for senators and that was a very bad idea. Why? Because U.S. senators are supposed to represent THEIR individual states on the federal stage on state issues and treaties. The state legislatures knew those issues well, and they voted for their two best people to represent their state on state issues in Washington DC through the federal legislature. With the 17th amendment, the citizenry no longer votes for representation of state issues at the federal level; they vote for a PARTY apparatchik at the federal, just as they do for the House of Representatives. The outcomes have been atrocious with a take it or leave it all party platform (R or D) result on every issue, just as the House of Representatives has. Terrible backward thinking.
You apparently think those are good things.
You had no mandate in 2019. In fact, you democrats lost seats in the congress in 2019 elections. Progressives will be punished and you'll be shown the door in November.
No ideas will be "locked in" and no science will be "settled" because you want to stop anyone from questioning your authority. You, Steve_American are as unAmerican as they come.
November will end very well, with you liberals defanged from causing further damage. Rampant inflation, leaving $85 Billion in military hardware to the Taliban (and our nation-state adversaries to capture and reverse engineer that hardware to our detriment), leaving people to be executed in Afghanistan, showing weakness on the international stage which led to the Ukraine situation (and probably Taiwan upcoming also), threatening people to stay quiet by using Covid as an excuse by the administrative state of unelected bureaucrats to silence the populace to comply with your control-freak mandates, rampant censorship of competing ideas, pushing ideological Critical Race Theory in schools rather than educating students in what they need to succeed, violence all over our cities like never before, etc., etc., etc.
Getting you leftists the hell outta Washington can't come quickly enough.
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