- 13 Jan 2022 01:38
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(1) I am aware that the Wikipedia articles alleges that recounts show Gore as the winner of Florida. It's very interesting to think Gore would have won by less than 150 votes (in any scenario).
(2) I am unaware of the Brooks Brothers riot narrative -- the regime would like to remember it like this:
"Republicans objected to this change of plans. John E. Sweeney of New York, nicknamed "Congressman Kick-Ass" by President Bush for his work in Florida,[10] set the incident in motion[11] by telling an aide to 'stop them'[1][12] and to "Shut it down."[1][12] The demonstration turned violent and, according to The New York Times, "several people were trampled, punched or kicked when protesters tried to rush the doors outside the office of the Miami-Dade supervisor of elections. Sheriff's deputies restored order." Democratic National Committee aide Luis Rosero claimed to be kicked and punched outside of Leahy's office.[13] Within two hours after the event, the canvassing board unanimously voted to shut down the count, in part due to perceptions that the process was not open or fair, and in part because the court-mandated deadline had become impossible to meet, due to the interference.[13][14]"
Wikipedia
I am not sure. It sounds entirely plausible.
I am also not going to devote hours of my life internet sleuthing the topic.
(2) It is interesting to suggest that Roger Stone had intended to launch what essentially amounted to a coup d'etat on J6 because he took part in the previous event twenty years ago, which is not that similar because it is not even remotely conceivable that a similar effect could have been produced by what happened on J6, and the scale and character of it is completely different, IMO.
Right, sure, I would say that the GOP is at all interested in not supporting Israel. The only hope Palestinians have is from the Left who actually has put people in office like Tlaib who will actually vote against Israel. Even AOC, who will publicly cry for Palestine, will still not vote against Israel.
The closest thing to a semblance of Republican sentiment that is against Israel are the folk Libertarians that are isolationists.
Steve Bannon, who is frequently invoked by the Left as the crypto-Nazi behind Trump, stated that he is proud to be a 'Christian Zionist' (his words, not mine).
The GOP is more pro-Israel than anyone, and Donald Trump is the King of Israel, and his family is largely Jewish:
Ynetnews.com
Of course, Bannon & Trump represented an alternative to normal Republicanism, but, if anything, it is more Zionist than the Neocons.
August 8th, 2019
noemon wrote:Of course Roger Stone stormed the Florida ballots in what has been called the Brooks Brothers Riots, he did that explicitly to stop the recount and he succeeded. The recount was stopped, the result was declared by a Judge without taking into account the ballots that had been stormed in Florida and when the recount eventually took place, Al Gore was the victor.
Al Gore was a bigger man who did not issue an order to his supporters to go storm the Capitol despite the fact that he actually won the election certifiably.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Br ... terference.
https://eu.tallahassee.com/story/opinio ... 742713002/
In addition, the Netflix documentary shows clear video footage of Roger Stone organizing the riots and then physically storming the ballots in Florida with the expressed intent to stop the recount.
He was also behind the storming of the Capitol last year.
(1) I am aware that the Wikipedia articles alleges that recounts show Gore as the winner of Florida. It's very interesting to think Gore would have won by less than 150 votes (in any scenario).
(2) I am unaware of the Brooks Brothers riot narrative -- the regime would like to remember it like this:
"Republicans objected to this change of plans. John E. Sweeney of New York, nicknamed "Congressman Kick-Ass" by President Bush for his work in Florida,[10] set the incident in motion[11] by telling an aide to 'stop them'[1][12] and to "Shut it down."[1][12] The demonstration turned violent and, according to The New York Times, "several people were trampled, punched or kicked when protesters tried to rush the doors outside the office of the Miami-Dade supervisor of elections. Sheriff's deputies restored order." Democratic National Committee aide Luis Rosero claimed to be kicked and punched outside of Leahy's office.[13] Within two hours after the event, the canvassing board unanimously voted to shut down the count, in part due to perceptions that the process was not open or fair, and in part because the court-mandated deadline had become impossible to meet, due to the interference.[13][14]"
Wikipedia
I am not sure. It sounds entirely plausible.
I am also not going to devote hours of my life internet sleuthing the topic.
(2) It is interesting to suggest that Roger Stone had intended to launch what essentially amounted to a coup d'etat on J6 because he took part in the previous event twenty years ago, which is not that similar because it is not even remotely conceivable that a similar effect could have been produced by what happened on J6, and the scale and character of it is completely different, IMO.
@Patrickov
Hey Patrickov, observe Verv's argument, the only reason he is mentioning this in an argument about the "establishment", is because American nationalists/white supremacists identify the "establishment" with "Jews". So Republicans(including Trump) have a tradition of making minor passing comments or threats with no actual political or economic effect on Israel just to ensure that American white supremacists(aka useful idiots) have their backs in the elections. Trump said something funny about the Israeli lobby and then went on to recognize Jerusalem. Bush withheld loan guarantees for 10 million and then a month later approved 10 billion dollars in aid for Israel. Between himself and his son they went on to destroy most(if not all) functioning states in the M-E.
Right, sure, I would say that the GOP is at all interested in not supporting Israel. The only hope Palestinians have is from the Left who actually has put people in office like Tlaib who will actually vote against Israel. Even AOC, who will publicly cry for Palestine, will still not vote against Israel.
The closest thing to a semblance of Republican sentiment that is against Israel are the folk Libertarians that are isolationists.
Steve Bannon, who is frequently invoked by the Left as the crypto-Nazi behind Trump, stated that he is proud to be a 'Christian Zionist' (his words, not mine).
The GOP is more pro-Israel than anyone, and Donald Trump is the King of Israel, and his family is largely Jewish:
Ivanka Trump is considered the strongest woman in the president-elect’s business and election campaign. She converted to Judaism eight years ago before marrying Jewish businessman Jared Kushner in a process performed by Rabbi Haskel Lookstein of Manhattan. Ivanka belongs to his congregation and says she lives as an Orthodox Jew, observing Shabbat and kashrut laws. She has said in past interviews that her father supported her decision to convert.
Ynetnews.com
Of course, Bannon & Trump represented an alternative to normal Republicanism, but, if anything, it is more Zionist than the Neocons.
August 8th, 2019